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Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by questfortruth, Jan 27, 2021.

  1. questfortruth

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    The theory of Evolution started badly. It began with the book The Origin of Species. However, the modern man did not descend from any of the known species. Not from monkeys, not from primates, not from rodents, not even from a single-celled amoeba a billion years ago. The modern man appeared directly from "common ancestors". Do not confuse these common ancestors with transitional forms! For example, Homo sapiens descended from a common ancestor (let us denote it by the letter A) between Homo sapiens and Neanderthal. In turn, this mythical chimera A descended from a common ancestor (let's call it chimera B) between chimera A and Homo Erectus. And so on. We are not descended from known species, but from a chain of chimeras that begin with the Big Bang. That is why I oppose the apparent wrongness of Darwinian Evolution.

    At school biology class we were told a piece of misleading information because Jesus Christ and Albert Einstein did not come from monkeys, "but rats!"



    Do you believe that?! Here is the dialogue between the Creationist and the Darwinist; which is likely to happen in the future, after the publication of my promising paper on biology, e.g.
    Adam and Eve in human genetics. New results.

    Creationist: "So has a man already descended from monkeys, or is he still a monkey?"

    Darwinist: "Man is another, smarter monkey. Humans and monkeys are in the same biological order, called primates."

    Creationist: “From whom did man come? Not from primates. Because he is still a primate."

    Darwinist: "primates evolved from rodents."

    Creationist: "Is man already descended from rodents, or is he still a rodent?"

    Darwinist: "He is already a primate, not a rodent. But sometimes he is not a fool to gnaw."

    Creationist: “Since you are hinting that the signs of a rodent remain, then man is not descended from a rodent. Then he did not come from anyone at all, but appeared by a miracle, as it is written in the Bible. But, then, in your opinion, there are no people as such, since people are primates? Then the believer has no other option in Darwinism but to blaspheme Jesus Christ, to think of Godman as of a humanoid primate, hasn't he? A strange theory, difficult to fit with any of the religions. If man and macaque are at the same level of evolutionary development, then this is not a correct theory. Man is qualitatively and significantly developed in comparison with monkeys and macaques. For example, a person wrote explanatory books (he realized the laws of nature), but animals did not (they follow the laws, not knowing about their existence). "Not only did evolution happen: it eventually led to beings capable of comprehending the process, and even of comprehending the process by which they comprehend it." Richard Dawkins, The Ancestor's Tale, p. 613.

    Darwinist: "Primates and rodents are part of one superorder of placentals called euarhontoglyres. Besides, it includes blunt-like, lagomorphs, and herto-wings ones."

    Creationist: “This means that there are no evolutionary levels of development at all. Everyone and everything appeared at once, at the moment of God's creation of the world. Let me remind you that the Theory of Evolution began its journey with Darwin's bestseller "The Origin of Species". And since until now no one has descended from anyone (humankind is a subspecies of the monkey), then the Theory of Evolution is not right at the very beginning, already from the very title. Do you ask who has created the Eternally existing, Uncreated God? My dear, Evolutionism is not an option, here is its criticism, a song:



    Homo Sapience came from common ancestor A between Homo Sapience and Homo Neanderthalensis.
    The mythical creature A came from common ancestor B between Homo Erectus and creature A.
    And so, on common ancestors C,D,E,F,G,,, until the Big Bang. Thus, the Homo Sapience has not come from anybody existing,
    only from the common mythical ancestors.
     
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    Ah yes another argument of X exists therefore Y didn't evolve from it's related common ancestor.

    You are astoundingly off base in your assumption of how evolution works.

    Take a Biological Anthropology course or better yet read an actual book that explains the inner workings of Evolution to see exactly where your argument falls apart, I'm not about to point it out for you, you have a Gods given mind, use it.

    Pro-tip: Just because Chimps exist (you used rats of course) doesn't mean we didn't branch off from a Common Ancestor to both, of which DNA shows we do.
     
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    Also WTH does evolution have to do with True love? My dog expresses true love, my cats express true love, and I'd be willing to bet every other mammalian species on the planet does as well in some fashion or other. It's what sustains Life. (And that doesn't mean it's Gods given), emotions are like pain signals, they tell us what is right and wrong for each individual species.
     
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    First of all, we are not from Chimps, because we are still a subspecies of Chimps.
    Thus, we are from rats.
    But, we are not from rats either. We are from the common ancestor between rats and Chimps, aren't we?
     
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    If I don't know anything on some topic,
    I've too much self respect to act the
    fool and pretend I do.
     
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    We are not a sub species of chimp. Can you describe to me what a species is? We are of the order of Great Apes of which chimps are grouped with.

    Here have a chart. You people like graphics right?
    Age-of-Man-wiki.jpg
     
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    3883ae59ddeba67b85aa1734fa58c233.jpg

    Here is a zoomed in spot for Man.
     
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    Paranthropus robustus looks to have gotten a nice haircut.
     
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    Here is another dialog

    Evolutionist : DNA does not lie

    Creationist : Yes it does

    Evolutionist :

    download.jpg
     
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    So you have nothing to say. Please leave your own OP then. I've provided evidence it's up to you to ignore (which you will), or not. *Shrug*

    It's amazing how uninformed people are willing to stay. I believe in both Evolution, and Creator God's, this doesn't seem mutually exclusive except to a select willfully-ignorant few.

    Why would the Gods not set in motion evolution, as a way for Life to adapt to an environment that radically changes throughout time. Seems counterintuitive for everything to remain the same, for homeostasis equates to death, the only time things stop changing.

    (We are evolving as we speak, it's why most of us need our wisdom teeth/3rd molars are removed in the west, and why some never get them at all).
     
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    He did it himself too. Or maybe mommy helped him.
     
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    I prefer spiritual improvement. To walk on water as Jesus did.
     
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    Again, not mutually exclusive. Many Christians honor both scientific advances and their Christ and God. Take one of my best friend for example, or my Christian Wife.

    Edit: Your powers of ignoring this and Evolution seem to be beyond even the help of the Gods, lmao.

    Edit 2: if you're going to ignore the things I post as evidence I'll see my way out of this conversation, just as a heads up, you aren't worth the breath or time I expended here already.
     
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    Most likely the artist gave it to him.
     
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    The question is simple: from what or who the modern human came from?
     
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    Are you saying he was incapable of cutting his own hair; how dare you. /s
     
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    Sure but that's not an argument in support of the thread title.
     
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    We evolved from earlier human forms which evolved from a common earlier form which evolved ultimately from slime in an ancient pond. Part of this is shown here:

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    You need much bigger feet so your weight is spread and does not break the surface tension
     
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