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Featured Is there such thing as a seeker?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Unveiled Artist, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Veteran Member

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    True. I think many mixedthe two
     
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    The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.” From The Path of Daggers - Wheel of Time series.

    I have seen a true Seeker make a king quake in his boots with the asking of a single question.
    ―Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander - The Sword of Truth series.


     
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    Yes just like we have squared circles and tall short people
     
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    Unveiled Artist Veteran Member

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    Sarcasm?

    Explain. I'm not getting what your message.
     
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    Hmm. Do you think it's wise to different one learn from another only based on what he knows? (Assuming knowledge in this case is wisdom rather than, say, medical science)
     
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    Yes it's sarcasm because your question of being an expert and novice at the same time contradicts itself. I honestly often think that people here don't even think about what they post. They simply post stuff to try and sound smart but, had they taken a moment to think out loud or even ask that question out loud they would realize how foolish it sounds and 1) not ask it and 2) by hearing how ridiculous they sound they will actually find the answer
     
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    Read the full post-the Zen quotes too. The context is religious in nature:

    To all those who have a faith and grounded in it, do you believe you are still a seeker just as someone who is trying to find their religion or spiritual practice or do you not agree that to have a "Zen" mind one needs to have a beginner's mind also?

    If you don't get it, that's one thing. Ask for clarification.

    Sarcasm isn't needed to make a point.
     
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    What is the first thing a wise person realizes once they truly become wise? Anybody??? Anybody??
    The first thing a wise person realizes once they truly become wise is that there is so much more to learn!!!

    I Will always be a Hungry student!!

    That's what I see. It's very clear!!
     
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    Within the context of Zen, there’s no such thing as a ‘thing’, at least within isolation.

    To be a beginner means to experience every moment as if it were an original experience. Even within a familiar experience or expertise, look for the novelty within a situation or skill execution. Nothing is quite the same as our minds might have us believe out of habit.

    I’m interpreting in a pragmatic way. The Zen Buddhist experience is probably deeper. It’s like being born again in every moment.
     
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