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Featured Is there such a thing as eternal love?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by osgart, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    With or without religion?

    With or without God being real?

    I know for me there are people i will always love, even in the face of death forever, and i have no God to speak of.

    Do secular people experience eternal love?

    Or are we all relegated to temporal desires, and love aint an issue in society?
     
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  2. ManSinha

    ManSinha Well-Known Member

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    Is your definition of "eternal" to mean as long as as the individual lasts? Because there is another meaning - transcendent of time itself
     
  3. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    if the scenario is true....
    God and His Favored Angel ....had a falling out

    They don't like each other any more
     
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    whirlingmerc Well-Known Member

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    There is endless eternal love in Christianity
     
  6. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    Well even when the person dies you would still love them every bit as much.
    Whether they ceased to exist or not is irrelevant.
     
  7. ManSinha

    ManSinha Well-Known Member

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    I was not referring to the object of the love - I was referring to you as the lover (sorry that is the first term that came to mind)
     
  8. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    They are the ones that preach that love throughout the world, and they seem to get overwhelming responses from a lot of people about that. I am aware of their message. And people are profoundly affected by this message.

    I more wonder if anyone else has ever felt eternal love before!
     
  9. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    how would anyone one know?

    don't you need to be eternal?......at least for awhile
     
  10. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    As long as i live i will have undying love in general, and for many people too.
     
  11. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    Well one secular person might have a forever love though they only live a finite time.
     
  12. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    and God.......and the Favored One
    couldn't work it out

    eternity is a very long time
     
  13. osgart

    osgart Nothing my eye, Something for sure

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    Very long indeed!
     
  14. ManSinha

    ManSinha Well-Known Member

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    There was an episode of the Highlander that had two Immortals that were married to each other for IIRC over 500 years - she finally wanted to leave and he did not want to let go - thereby setting up the episode
     
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    If you accept the idea God is every possible way of being within every possible moment of existence in a single experience, then God's love for us is complete, absolute, and eternal. Going the other direction, we can only choose to love God in a fleeting moment. And we have to choose to love God in spite of all our own imperfections in the way we have been created. I think God has the advantage in the relationship.
     
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    Without God and only secular people what would eternal love be like?

    Consider the following. Our ego, who we think we are that is unique to us, is not unique. None of us invented sex. It is just part of everyone. The same thing is true for every thing we hold dear about ourselves and the people we love. Facets of our characters are the very same facets in everyone else's character. Once you accept the idea your ego is just a delusion, you die, and are reborn to a larger experience of humanity.

    As long as humanity continues to live on, you will live on in other people. What you hold dear and feel is important will exist in other people. Once you born-again to this larger perspective you can relax knowing everything you hold dear, everyone you love, will be loved and will continue to exist in other people after they die.

    So relax. Humanity has you covered. As long as human race continues our love is eternal.
     
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    Without God, there is no love, and without love, there is no eternity. No greater love is that one would die for the one he loves. If you have tasted of the tree of life, the love of God, then you already know God. Religion would be an obstacle to that realization. One must come out of religion, such as the "daughter of Babylon" (Zechariah 2:7).
     
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  18. The Anointed

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    ENDLESS LOVE

    There are countless lives before us
    Like the stars up in the sky
    But should the cord be cut to this one
    Should either of us die
    Before our separate spirits
    Are entwined and sing as one
    Forever more would we be parted
    But now the bonding has been done

    Now we will know each other
    In those lives still yet to be
    Though our forms are ever changing
    I’ll know you and you’ll know me
    We will recognize each other
    Passing through life’s endless doors
    I will find you in the darkness
    Then will our spirits, sing once more

    In the countless lives before us
    In each one if you’ll be mine
    I will pluck a star from heaven
    And in the nights of endless time
    I will thread them on eternity
    One for every life we live
    Then when the heavens are devoid of light
    The universe to you I’ll give...…...The Anointed
     
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  19. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    A mothers love for her children will (usually) last until the mothers death.

    Some great people will be loved long after their death, some french love Napoleon, many americans love Aba Lincoln.

    As for eternal, for ever? Chances are the concept of forever is a pipe dream. Most assuredly this universe will cease to be valid when maximum entropy is achieved. The human race, in fact any organic lifeform will be gone trillions of years by that time
     
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  20. dfnj

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    Atheists love philosophical materialism.
     
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