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Featured Is there a war on Christianity in America's Left?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by IndigoChild5559, Apr 28, 2019.

  1. Audie

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    You will get harassed for whatever ethnicity you
    may be. Depends on where you are.
    Being female gets you harassed and at risk
    everywhere. (as you no doubt noticed)
     
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    Correct @pcarl, and while Christ hasn't divided his body into "left" and "right" leaning Christians, it appears some "pastors" are more than willing to take the initiative and do it for him.
     
  3. Spartan

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    All those issues are covered in the Bible. The reason some Christians don't agree on the issues is they haven't done their homework. Doesn't disqualify the objective truths of God's Word, though.
     
  4. Spartan

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    Perhaps you should re-read my posts. Or believe whatever you want.
     
  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Bokononist
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    I really like one aspect of their being persecuted....
    The inescapable implication is that we atheists who are
    so few, are yet so powerful that we could accomplish that.
    In a sense, they hold us in high esteem.
     
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  6. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Bokononist
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    I know many Christians. And of those, many claim to be well schooled in the Bible.
    Yet they still find great opportunity to disagree about the very foundation of their beliefs.
    The one thing that 80+% of them have in common is the complete certainty that they're
    right, & everyone else is wrong. So many ways to read scripture, eh.
    Consider also that you say God's Word is objectively true. But this is no more provable
    than those who find the singular inerrant truth in Allah's word....or secular humanism...
    ....or who knows what other weltanschauungen are out there.

    As Wolfgan Pauli would say (if he spoke English)....
    "That's not only not right, it's not even wrong."
    I wouldn't want to endure his snark, so I don't claim to have "The Truth".
     
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  7. pcarl

    pcarl Well-Known Member

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    Its probably a toss up as to which came first, the 'Christian' looking for a public expression of what she/he believes, or the pastor persuading the unsuspecting Christian.
     
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    Indeed. For instance, despite Deut 24:10-15 clearly commanding that security for a loan can't be held overnight and that workers must be paid before the sun sets on the day that they did the work, Christians who actually follow these teachings are scarce as hen's teeth.
     
  9. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    I am confident that if you were being self honest this would read: "The reason some Christians don't agree with me on the issues is that they haven't done their homework."
    It's pretty arrogant, in my opinion.

    Few things are more subjective than someone's opinion about "the objective truths of God's Word". That's a huge problem with revealed religion in general.
    Tom
     
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  10. viole

    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    The problem is that Christians, in general, are spoiled. They are so used to say and do anything without impunity for the last 20 centuries, that now even the smallest objection is perceived as a war on them.

    Another mind boggling thing is that they complain. They should be happy considering that this is what prophecy expects. That would mean that Jesus is coming soon.

    Ciao

    - viole
     
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    So, now name-calling is now supposedly "Christian"? Tell us, when did that happen?

    Also, with the Obama administration there were 0 indictments with 0 plea deals and 0 admissions of guilt, so how's it going with this administration, Spartan?

    Also, there were nine investigations on Benghazi, with not one of them showing any corruption at all, so now maybe you can explain to us how "bearing false witness" also is "Christian"?

    As as far as Obamacare is concerned, actually most people have been able to keep their former physicians, and it's some of the physicians that opted out of taking those payments that made it not so for the others. So, not encouraging the government to "provide for the general welfare" as found in the Preamble so as to help our fellow Americans is also supposedly "Christian"?

    Seems to me that Jesus would want us to help others, not demean others through name-calling, and also to tell the truth.
     
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  12. Audie

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    There is no such freakin' thing as the "objective truths of gods word".

    It is all just grown ups playing star wars and taking it sooo
    seriously.
     
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  13. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Actually, if you were to actually do your homework, it actually was the Pubs who more radically reduced the budget on that expenditure under the reductions with the "sequester", whereas it was the Dems that went along with the reduction but not to the same extent.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    And actually acting like a Christian, with love and understanding for all, hopefully will, but all too many talk-the-talk but just don't walk-the-walk.
     
  15. Spartan

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    Way back in the Torah when God called the rebellious a "stiff-necked" people. Or, when Jesus told the Christ-mockers they were of their father the devil (John 8). Many examples. Don't you ever read the Bible?

    Obama had corrupt AG's to cover his rear end, metis. Apparently everyone but you knew that. Plus there is an indictment: Former Obama administration counsel indicted for concealing scope of work with Ukraine

    Trying to cover up for that idiot Obama and his corrupt administration is like trying to cover a pile of scat with some leaves.
     
  16. Spartan

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    Rebuking the devil and his minions is also being a Christian.
     
  17. Spartan

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    Yeah, those who aren't up to speed on what the Bible says might think that.

    Sorry, not buying it. God's Word is objective. Unbelievers will be cast into the Lake of Fire (Rev. 21:8). You can count on it.
     
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    Sounds like you're the one who's at war, not "America's Left."
     
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  19. Spartan

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    And with good reason.
    You're welcome to your beliefs.
     
  20. Spartan

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    It just sounds that way to you. The spiritually bankrupt have always been at war with God and his people.
     
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