Is the universe orderly?

[paarsurrey]

What does the science say about it?
Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.
Regards

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

What does the science say about it?
Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.
Regards

Any order we do not understand appears to be chaos, but seeming as we can scientifically predict things I would say it is ordered.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What does the science say about it?
Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.
Regards

No. Psychologically, we try to bring order in are minds like putting together a puzzle and needing a picture for guidance.

One of many things about the universe some humans cant accept.

 

[Skwim]

Any answer would depend on you mean by "orderly," So . . . . . . . . . . . . . ?

In any case:

and

“I believe that an orderly universe, one indifferent to human preoccupations, in which everything has an explanation even if we still have a long way to go before we find it, is a more beautiful, more wonderful place than a universe tricked out with capricious, ad hoc magic.”

― Richard Dawkins, Unweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder

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[Guy Threepwood]

What does the science say about it?
Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.
Regards

Table of universal constants[edit]


Symbol Value[8][9] Relative Standard Uncertainty
speed of light in vacuum

299 792 458 m·s−1 defined
Newtonian constant of gravitation

6989667408000000000♠6.67408(31)×10−11 m3·kg−1·s−2 4.7 × 10−5
Planck constant

6.626 070 040(81) × 10−34 J·s 1.2 × 10−8
reduced Planck constant

1.054 571 800(13) × 10−34 J·s 1.2 × 10−8


Table of electromagnetic constants[edit]
Quantity

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Symbol Value[8][10] (SI units) Relative Standard Uncertainty
magnetic constant (vacuum permeability)

4π × 10−7 N·A−2 = 1.256 637 061... × 10−6 N·A−2 defined
electric constant (vacuum permittivity)

8.854 187 817... × 10−12 F·m−1 defined
characteristic impedance of vacuum

376.730 313 461... Ω defined
Coulomb's constant

8.987 551 787... × 109 N·m2·C−2 defined
elementary charge

1.602 176 565(35) × 10−19 C 2.2 × 10−8
Bohr magneton

9.274 009 68(20) × 10−24 J·T−1 2.2 × 10−8
conductance quantum

7.748 091 7346(25) × 10−5 S 3.2 × 10−10
inverse conductance quantum

12 906.403 7217(42) Ω 3.2 × 10−10
Josephson constant

4.835 978 70(11) × 1014 Hz·V−1 2.2 × 10−8
magnetic flux quantum

2.067 833 758(46) × 10−15 Wb 2.2 × 10−8
nuclear magneton

5.050 783 53(11) × 10−27 J·T−1 2.2 × 10−8
von Klitzing constant

25 812.807 4434(84) Ω 3.2 × 10−10

 

[DawudTalut]

What does the science say about it?
Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.
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Peace be on you.

""Modern science seeks to identify the laws of nature: the orderly principles that govern physical events and processes. A law of nature, as defined by science, is a precise description of how nature behaves under specific circumstances. The most recent advances in quantum physics have revealed a single, universal, nonmaterial, unified field underlying, giving rise to, and governing the classical or material universe (Hagelin, 1987). Hagelin (1998) describes the Unified Field as the “home of all the Laws of Nature” because it is the source of the more diversified laws of nature, such as gravity or electromagnetism.""
https://www.mum.edu/assets/pdf_resources/cbe08.pdf

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Different but related: To be considered too: Order, Entropy, Mullah-ism, First world, second world, third world, Prophets struggle for orderliness, evil struggle for disorder.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

What does the science say about it?

That order is boring, stagnant, and unimportant, while "chaos" (in the sense of the popular science term "chaos theory") is ordered. So-called "chaotic systems" are those which display a degree of order beyond randomness yet display a degree of randomness.

That the universe might as well be (or indeed is) a computational system, implementing the computable dynamics of physical laws.
As for sources, you might find the following of interest:
Emergence of Dynamical Order: Synchronization Phenomena in Complex Systems
Future of Complexity: Conceiving a Better Way to Understand Order and Chaos
Order, Disorder and Criticality: Advanced Problems of Phase Transition Theory (Vols. I & II)
Quantum Chaos: Between Order and Disorder
Science, Order, and Creativity: A Dramatic New Look at the Creative Roots of Science and Life (Routledge Classics)
Small Worlds: The Dynamics of Networks between Order and Randomness
The Order of Things: Explorations in Scientific Theology
What Is Random: Chance and Order in Mathematics and Life

 

[Revoltingest]

The universe is once again orderly, now that @LegionOnomaMoi has returned!

 

[HonestJoe]

What does the science say about it?

Science doesn’t say anything. It isn’t an entity, it’s a set of processes and methods. It’s used to reach conclusions (though not necessarily definitive ones) about all sorts of things all of the time.

Your question is too generic to give any kind of specific answer to. As others mentioned, you’d need to go in to more detail as to what you mean by “orderly” and “the universe” covers such a vast scale and scope (by definition) that you can’t ever really say it is any one thing. In general terms, some things appear to be very methodical and structured while other things appear to be completely random. Some of the things we once thought were ordered have turned out to be more complicated and some things we once thought were random have turned out to have some structure or consistency.

It’s obvious that there is some element of order and structure to at least some aspects of the universe – it couldn’t exist otherwise. It’s my uneducated suspicion that everything is following some sort of consistent physical patterns but some of them may be so complex and involved that we (humans) will never be able to fully understand them before we ultimately all die out.

Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.

No thanks. I feel no need to support my opinion with anything so formal and frankly can’t be bothered spending the time tracking something relevant down just to satisfy your demands. If you want formal scientific answers, you need to ask formal scientists.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

It's all down-hill with entropy.

http://www.calpoly.edu/~rbrown/entropy.html

 

[Revoltingest]

It's all down-hill with entropy.

http://www.calpoly.edu/~rbrown/entropy.html

This is one of the better explanations I've seen, although the
terminology is a little impenetrable for those not already familiar.

 

[viole]

What does the science say about it?
Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.
Regards

If you have a concept of disorder, then that concept must necessarily come from things you observed in the Universe. Ergo, the universe is not orderly.

And if you never observed disorder, how do you know that it can exist?

Ciao

- viole

 

[`mud]

Has anyone heard of bumper cars,
or gravity ?
~
Oh......I get it......"God did it"....
~
'mud

 

[paarsurrey]

Has anyone heard of bumper cars,
or gravity ?
~
Oh......I get it......"God did it"....
~
'mud

If there is no system in work in nature/universe, how scientific laws are discerned by science like gravity?
Regards

 

[Rick O'Shez]

If there is no system in work in nature/universe, how scientific laws are discerned by science like gravity?
Regards

Is God affected by gravity?

 

[paarsurrey]

Is God affected by gravity?

G-d has created it. Gravity has been affected by G-d.
Regards

 

[Etritonakin]

Things happen in a certain order based on the nature of things -but it is also true that the "natural" course of things can be altered by decision, and ordered for specific purposes.

I believe our future includes being given bodies able to manipulate and order even cosmic events.....

Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

 

[Darkstorn]

Since everything at least seems to work on specific laws, some of which we might not know yet, i would say everything happens in a "system".

Chaos, and order... Well. Those things aren't.... Well... Real. They are words. Like "luck". Most people understand that luck doesn't exist because things happen *logically*: If a thousand dollar bill fell onto your lap, it would seem "lucky" but there's still a logical method for it happening: It didn't just "appear". And it was not lucky for someone else...

Chaos and order are particular viewpoints; Of the same thing specifically. To our perspective the universe can appear both chaotic and orderly, and it depends entirely upon the person. It's really subjective.

I don't think nature can be "subjective". It's definitely a system, but applying labels like "chaotic" and "orderly" really doesn't work: Those are adjectives. And adjectives are compltely dependant on viewpoint.

... Someone else's "lucky" is someone else's misfortune.

 

[The Ardent Atheist]

What does the science say about it?
Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.
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It depends on how you look at things. If you look at the big picture, things seem chaotic, but it you look at the atomic world, everything is simpler and orderly.

But, ultimately, isn't order and chaos a matter of perspective?

 

[Aquitaine]

G-d has created it. Gravity has been affected by G-d.
Regards

And yet in the OP you wrote "Please quote from a text book of science and or from a peer reviewed article in a reputed journal of science in support of your opinion.".

Reminds me of the quote: "Tell someone there is an invisible man in the sky and they will believe you, tell them the paint is wet and they will have to touch it just to make sure".