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dharveymi said:Well there you go, the inconsistent and contradictory works of Solomon, wisest man who ever lived, or the illiterate and logically challenged Daniel, who rose from slave to leader of the then known world. How could they ever compete with aliens, especially ones sent by you know who?
Seriously, what credentials do these aliens have? Do we know their parents? Maybe, they're outcasts from their planet. It would be great if we could get an interview, maybe with Letterman.
What's great about humans is that they are real. Human's are like you and me. They're not perfect, but they caulk up a record as they live with us. Now you don't have to believe them, that's true, but I'll take old flesh and blood, living and dying, loving and laughing, mistakes and all over siliconocytoplasm mystic mumbo jumbo any day, and I would bet my neighbor, his neighbor, her neighbor... would too. So when you want to get REAL, when you want to KNOW, when you want to SEE, turn to Him in whom is all Truth.
If I offend, I apologize, but know it is with the greatest love that speak so boldly. There are many who will teach "another Jesus", don't listen. Turn and worship the one true God.
Hi, MichaelChrist Michael said:For hundreds of years the greatest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat but we all know, now, that it was a false belief. It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that we should have believed The Biblical account of everything, especially after it became painfully obvious that IT JUST ISN'T TRUE.
Actually you've just managed to come up with two complete fallacies in these two statements. First, it was already known that the earth was a sphere before Christ's Incarnation, the ancient Greeks (and maybe others) having discovered the fact. Secondly, the Bible does not state that the earth is flat at all. In fact, it's quite easy to argue the reverse. Just because the Roman Catholic church once had a problem with the idea that the earth was a globe doesn't mean that all of Christianity did, nor does it mean the idea that the earth is flat is supported by Scripture. Plenty of Christians never voiced any opposition to the idea that the earth was a globe - we Orthodox and the Oriental Orthodox, for instance.Christ Michael said:For hundreds of years the greatest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat but we all know, now, that it was a false belief. It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that we should have believed The Biblical account of everything, especially after it became painfully obvious that IT JUST ISN'T TRUE.
James, it was a fact that was "discovered"? By the Greeks (and maybe others)?IacobPersul said:the ancient Greeks (and maybe others) having discovered the fact.
I don't dispute it. I think that it's fairly clear from Scripture also, but I was trying to point out that the science of pre-Christian Europe also had ascertained that the earth was a globe. You'll notice that I also pointed out that Scripture does not suggest the earth is flat, I hope.AV1611 said:James, it was a fact that was "discovered"? By the Greeks (and maybe others)?
Perhaps it was documented long before that in a Book?
Hi, James.IacobPersul said:I don't dispute it. I think that it's fairly clear from Scripture also, but I was trying to point out that the science of pre-Christian Europe also had ascertained that the earth was a globe. You'll notice that I also pointed out that Scripture does not suggest the earth is flat, I hope.
Maize,Maize said:History of the Trinity...
Hi there, dharveymi. (How do I pronounce that anyway? )dharveymi said:No matter how often you state a false doctrine (one in contradiction to the scriptures), it doesn't make it true. There is one God, the Father. He has a son. The Son has characteristics of His Father by birth, but he does not hold the position of the Father, the ultimate ruler of the universe, any more than a prince is the ultimate authority of a country and has only the authority his father, the king, gives him.
I disagree with you on this paragraph, however. I believe that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, each have their own spirit. But I also believe that the Holy Ghost is the third personage of the Godhead. When Jesus told His Apostles to go into all the world, preaching His gospel and baptising those who would accept it "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," do you believe this to mean, "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Father's spirit?" I'm unclear as to why He would have told them to baptise both in the name of His Father and His Father's spirit. Would you mind explaining?There is no third person. The holy spirit is simply God's Spirit. Is it any wonder that God's spirit is holy? God's spirit is not seperate from Him any more than your spirit is a seperate person than your spirit is a seperate person from you. It is you, the essence of who you are.
I'd like to continue a discussion on this topic, but I'll wait until you have answered the questions I've asked. And I will stick to using only the Bible, since it's the one source we both accept as valid.I understand that few "christians" understand this truth. Consider some of my previous posts for documentation about my claims. If you would like to make a counter claim, evidence for your claim would make this discussion much easier. I generally use the Holy scriptures to back up my claims, but if you would like to use another source, please explain why it should be trusted over the Bible.
Hi, BennettBennettresearch said:Sorry Maize, I am new here so my post was not looking so good. I don't consider the Trinity to be anything more than a creation myth. Separating the truth from the mythology is a very daunting task.
Separating the truth from the mythology is God's job ... not ours.