Is the Theory of Evolution Harmless to Religion?

[Yerda]

How's the weather then?

 

[Tek]

why do you care so much of information you will not treasure?

 

[mr.guy]

Considering the thread OP, we might ask the same of you.

 

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[linwood]

It`s this stuff that really irks me…..

pballfreek20:

The reason "Evolution" is considered bad for Christian Religion, is that the orginal stated Evolution theory states that there is no "God", and we all evolved from a one celled organism…..Evolution is a state of chaos and chance.

Psalm:

Let me get this straight. You(the evolution theorists) have no problem believing that fish could derive from elephant, ape derive from bird, or giraffes derive from ants, as long as they have enough time to evolve, but you have a problem in believing that God placed it all himself? WOW.

Tek:

I honestly see evolution depressing.....They believe that a boom and we are all here with no purpose what so ever. There is no life after death or life before life but just now. I honestly think a wise person would believe in a surpeme being

People who haven`t even a cursory understanding if the most basic concepts of something establishing an opinion upon an invisible strawman of their own making.

As to the OP…

I think evolution is indeed a threat to some religions, it is often a threat to certain sects of a religion but not other sects of the same religion.

I think the empirical evidence of the Wedge document, the Dover school board fiasco, and the powers that be in Kansass (among a plethora of similar affairs within religion about science in general) are irrefutable proof of this perceived threat.

 

[Abram]

It's harmless to my religion. My God and Bible have with stood thousands of years of doubts, complaints, science, smart people. But his word never changes, He never needs to go back and fix anything. It's great because I don't have to spend my life time trying to figure it out. (instead I spend it here )

He made the world in 6 days, God told me in his 10 commandments just so we don't think a day isn't a day. 6 days you work, the 7th you rest. For I made the world in 6 days (paraphrased)

The chicken came before the egg, God told me.

Everyone is worshiping something, money, science, status, God. God gives me all the proof I need in day to day life. Some people require complex explanations that require 4 years of college. God only requires a heart. I love you Lord! thxs

 

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

Abram,

it baffles me why you insist on downing education. Perhaps it is because as people become more educated, statistically, they, statistically become less likely to be religious. Yeah, keep attacking the intelligencia, that strengthens your position.

B.

 

[Believe2Believe]

The evolution theory is not a 'harm' to religion..it simply opposes all that most religions teach. They are two sides of a railway track..never to meet. Evolutionist are in the mindset that life started from a single cell (correct me if im wrong) but creationists believe in a higher being, as even the single cell did not pop out of nowhere or create itself!!

 

[greatcalgarian]

It's harmless to my religion. My God and Bible have with stood thousands of years of doubts, complaints, science, smart people. But his word never changes, He never needs to go back and fix anything. It's great because I don't have to spend my life time trying to figure it out. (instead I spend it here )

He made the world in 6 days, God told me in his 10 commandments just so we don't think a day isn't a day. 6 days you work, the 7th you rest. For I made the world in 6 days (paraphrased)

The chicken came before the egg, God told me.

Everyone is worshiping something, money, science, status, God. God gives me all the proof I need in day to day life. Some people require complex explanations that require 4 years of college. God only requires a heart. I love you Lord! thxs

Life must be very simple and easy for you. God has given you all the answer. There is no need to go to school, to study Math, Science, history, philosophy, logic, debate, argueing etc, to run experiment to prove something, or to find out more, when philosophers have been pondering since human being started the cabability of reasoning and thinking on the question of "chicken first or egg first", and you can come up with such confident and assured answer of "The chicken came before the gg, God told me."
If you are so sure about everything, and God has told you about everything, I wonder why are you posting in this RF? Are you seeking for information that you could not get from God, or are you trying to convince all of us that what you know (God told you so) is the absolute truth?

 

[Fade]

I honestly see evolution depressing.....They believe that a boom and we are all here with no purpose what so ever. There is no life after death or life before life but just now.

Where exactly does evolution state that there is no purpose to life?

I honestly think a wise person would believe in a surpeme being

And you really call yourself a Buddhist? How do you reconcile diametrically opposed beliefs?

 

[Fade]

Hmmmmmm the mythological record i read must have been false.........

Hmmmmm it sounds like most of what you have read is false......

 

[Fade]

Everyone is worshiping something, money, science, status, God. God gives me all the proof I need in day to day life. Some people require complex explanations that require 4 years of college. God only requires a heart. I love you Lord! thxs

If everyone believed what you believe we would still be sacrificing goats and living in huts made of straw and clay. Forget electricity or medicine or even basic sanitation. The world we live in today is not the product of simple minds like yours. The computer you are using was not created by someone without 4 years of college...of that you can be sure. Humanity has clawed its way out of the dark ages by rebelling against ignorance and blind faith. Personally I think we're much better for it.

 

[Abram]

If everyone believed what you believe we would still be sacrificing goats and living in huts made of straw and clay. Forget electricity or medicine or even basic sanitation. The world we live in today is not the product of simple minds like yours. The computer you are using was not created by someone without 4 years of college...of that you can be sure. Humanity has clawed its way out of the dark ages by rebelling against ignorance and blind faith. Personally I think we're much better for it.

Your wrong about the goat thing, Jesus was the final sacrifice.

If you think this world is better because of all this new stuff we have, it's your ignorance. If you think cell phones, fast food, and new cars is a better life think again. They shorten the lives of all users. We go home and watch TV and see garbage that fills our minds with impossible dreams. We create new drugs that the TV sells like candy. Every one is taking pills now. I'm sad, here take a pill. I can't think strait, here have a pill. I'm so stressed, here take a pill. Yeah thank God for medicine. Every time they fix one thing it starts 3 bad things. We have only clawed our way out of the dark ages into even darker ages. Entropy my man. Order to chaos...

 

[Sunstone]

Your wrong about the goat thing, Jesus was the final sacrifice.

If you think this world is better because of all this new stuff we have, it's your ignorance. If you think cell phones, fast food, and new cars is a better life think again. They shorten the lives of all users. We go home and watch TV and see garbage that fills our minds with impossible dreams. We create new drugs that the TV sells like candy. Every one is taking pills now. I'm sad, here take a pill. I can't think strait, here have a pill. I'm so stressed, here take a pill. Yeah thank God for medicine. Every time they fix one thing it starts 3 bad things. We have only clawed our way out of the dark ages into even darker ages. Entropy my man. Order to chaos...

I've known people who believed like you that modern society was overall worse than ancient societies and they acted on their beliefs to go live in teepees. Do you see this as an option for you?

 

[Abram]

I've known people who believed like you that modern society was overall worse than ancient societies and they acted on their beliefs to go live in teepees. Do you see this as an option for you?

No, then I would be hiding from the world. I don't believe in coincidence, so it's all happening for a reason. Besides I enjoy many of the things society has given me. Like this computer I'm typing on...

 

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

Your wrong about the goat thing, Jesus was the final sacrifice.

If you think this world is better because of all this new stuff we have, it's your ignorance. If you think cell phones, fast food, and new cars is a better life think again. They shorten the lives of all users. We go home and watch TV and see garbage that fills our minds with impossible dreams. We create new drugs that the TV sells like candy. Every one is taking pills now. I'm sad, here take a pill. I can't think strait, here have a pill. I'm so stressed, here take a pill. Yeah thank God for medicine. Every time they fix one thing it starts 3 bad things. We have only clawed our way out of the dark ages into even darker ages. Entropy my man. Order to chaos...

Care to explain how the average life span back in the golden age of ignorance was about 30 and now its about 75? Honestly if we relied on fundamentalists we would still be living as they did in the Dark Ages.

B.

 

[Scuba Pete]

They shorten the lives of all users.

Hello?

You do realise that our life span is about DOUBLE that of the first century? On that fact alone, your diatribe sounds overly paranoid. I won't bother going into the rest of it.

 

[TheGreaterGame]

In the apartment above mine lives a dog. Everyday, the postman comes and the dog everyday barks at the postman. This has been going on for years. But the dog has never learned that the postman is harmless.

It occured to me today that some of the people who oppose the theory of evolution on religious grounds might have something in common with that dog. That is, they might never have learned that evolution is harmless to their religion. Still, they "bark" at it.

But is this true? Is the theory of evolution harmless to religion? Or, does it really undermine religion, as so many people think? What do you think? And if you think it does undermine religion, precisely why does it undermine religion?

If anything it strengthens religon . . . why would anyone put their hope in such a horrible hypothesis?

 

[Abram]

Care to explain how the average life span back in the golden age of ignorance was about 30 and now its about 75? Honestly if we relied on fundamentalists we would still be living as they did in the Dark Ages.

B.

A major factor in longevity calculations is infant and female [from childbirth] death rates.
Most children survive infancy now, and most mothers, birth-- this has pushed up the longevity average.
The truth is that people live more or less as long as they did 2000 years ago

 

[MdmSzdWhtGuy]

A major factor in longevity calculations is infant and female [from childbirth] death rates.
Most children survive infancy now, and most mothers, birth-- this has pushed up the longevity average.
The truth is that people live more or less as long as they did 2000 years ago

Amazing. Well whatever small shred of credibility you had, was just stomped on the neck. We live as we did 2,000 years ago? 1st century was largely agrarian, ignorant, illiterate, and the average person beleived the Earth was only about 3500 years old, and was the center of the solar syst. . . .

You know what? You are right. Some of us are no different now than people were 2,000 years ago. Have a wonderful evening sir.

B.