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Is the Jesus in the Quran the same in the Bible?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by pro4life, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. pro4life

    pro4life Member

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    Jesus in the Quran:


    "..WE GAVE JESUS THE SON OF MARY CLEAR SIGNS AND STRENGTHENED HIM WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT"

    HOLY QURAN 2:87

    "..O MARY! GOD GIVETH THEE GLAD TIDINGS OF A WORD FROM HIM: HIS NAME WILL BE CHRIST JESUS, THE SON OF MARY.."

    HOLY QURAN 3:45

    "..CHRIST JESUS THE SON OF MARY WAS (NO MORE THAN) AN APOSTLE OF GOD.."

    HOLY QURAN 4:171

    "..AND IN THEIR (the previous Prophets') FOOTSTEPS WE SENT JESUS THE SON OF MARY.."

    HOLY QURAN 5:49

    "AND ZAKARIYA AND JOHN, AND JESUS AND ELIAS: ALL IN THE RANKS OF THE RIGHTEOUS:"

    HOLY QURAN 6:85
     
  2. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Yes, to the same extent that the Jesus of Revelation is the same Jesus as gMark.
    Tom
     
  3. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    Same Jesus, but the source of Mohammad(pbuh)'s stories about Jesus isn't only the four Gospels of the Bible but includes other "lost" or Apocryphal gospels not included in the Bible, that's why some of the stories are different from what Christians hear. The Gospel of Barnabas seems to be one of the sources, it is available today.
     
  4. DawudTalut

    DawudTalut Peace be upon you.

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    Peace be on all.
    Jesus was a person from God mentioned in Bible and Quran.
    Quran is unique in making explicit claim of having divine protection.
    Various aspects about Jesus (on whom be peace) according to Ahmadiyya-Muslim understanding of Quran and Bible:

    Birth of Jesus
    Divinity of Jesus
    Mission of Jesus
    Miracles of Jesus
    Crucifixion of Jesus
    Migration to the East

    mentioned in useful links
    Jesus Son of Mary: Islamic Beliefs
    JESUS - PROPHET OF GOD
     
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  5. Lyndon

    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    But I was taught Muslims do not believe Jesus was crucified, as recorded in the Gospel of Barnabas.
     
  6. DawudTalut

    DawudTalut Peace be upon you.

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    Peace be on you.
    1-Ahmadiyya-Muslim (as I referred in beginning in above, highlighted in edit) believe from Quran, Bible, Old Medical and Historical record that Jesus was placed on cross, survived and migrated to Kashmir, did his work, died at 120 years of age and his tomb is present in Srinagar.
    Al Islam - Jesus in India

    His second coming means metaphor for other person as coming of Elijah was John the Baptist.
    For Ahmadiyya Muslims this metaphoric second coming has been fulfilled (now his Khilafat continues his peaceful work) as
    The Promised Messiah

    For Ahmadiyya Muslims, second metaphoric coming of Jesus and Imam Mahdi are same, according to Hadith......These are titles pointing to qualities of the same man; Word Jesus (a.s.) shows no-war and correction of Christians, word Mahdi shows directly guided by God and blessings of his Master Muhammad (pbuh).


    2-Other Muslims (not all) believe Jesus was taken from cross to heaven and someone else was placed instead of him. They consider he will physically come in latter days and with Imam Mahdi he will counter anti-Christ.

    Sort of history repeating.
     
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  7. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe it is the same Jesus but the Qu'ran does not have as much information about him.
     
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    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe all of those crucifixion fantasies are contrary to the Bible and therefore in error.

    I believe the second coming is not metaphoric but He will physically return just as He ledt.
     
  9. pro4life

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    Didnt the christians throw out the gospel of barnabas?
     
  10. outhouse

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    Jesus is not the same in this later book with no real historical value.
     
  11. pro4life

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    Provide evidence
     
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    outhouse Atheistically

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    Find one credible scholar in the world that uses your book for any aspect of developing historicity for Jesus.

    Here is a hint. They don't exist.
     
  13. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Pyrphóros ⚡ Lux Aeterna
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    Definitely not. The only similarities are that Jesus is the Messiah, was born of Mary by way of a Virgin Birth, performed miracles and will return. Other than that, they're very different figures.
     
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    Gospel of Barnabas -
    Is one of the apocryphal gospels
    2. Christ in the Holy differs from Christ we know
    3. The story of Christ's birth in the false Koran
    4. novel crucifixion of Christ in the false Koran
    5. declare war on the followers of Christ proves that the Koran does not recognize in Christ we know
    6. Yes, there are movable in the Holy Gospel
    But all those verses replicated in other verses from the Koran
    That is why Christ in the Koran does not believe the lies which Mohammed in the Koran
     
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    The tory of Jesus is different to us all, not just the Muslims, each one of us have our own story of what he was, and what he wasn't, and that's basically what its all about.
     
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    GoB is a known forgery.

    One of the unknown minor traditions of Christianity not depicted in the Bible is the birth of Jesus in the Quran. It is found at the Church of the Kathisma of the Theotokos
     
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  17. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Pyrphóros ⚡ Lux Aeterna
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    Also, there's no evidence of it existing before Medieval times, to my knowledge.

    I'm not sure what you're saying. Can you give more information about that?
     
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    You can find information about the site and it's links to early Islam as an influence prior to prophethood below. the site was only found in the late 90s and academics is slow to release information to the masses. Easily overlooked by many.

    Christmas in the Qur'än: the Qur'änic account of Jesus's nativity and Palestinian local tradition | Stephen Shoemaker - Academia.edu
     
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    You're welcome, enjoy the read.
     
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