Shadow Wolf
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Then why does it only reference a very tiny part of the world?
The why is the advice often not good, and more intended, at least with the OT, to be followed by the Jews?
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I think it is a logical conclusion that also the animals were in the Garden of Eden or at least nearby. Or do you think God created the animals 1000 km away from Adam and the Garden? If so, how could Adam give the animals their names?
And don't you think it's strange that very old maps in the southernmost part of Africa marked a ring from which 4 rivers emerge?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
The Bible doesn't indicate or suggest, so it's illogical to think you can do more than make guesses and assumptions and have nothing definitive to back them up.
Terry Sampson
Well-Known Member
I'm intrigued... "right up thru Joshua", eh? So, what is your opinion/theory regarding the origin, "identity", and evolution/development of the "nation" of Israel from Abraham to Joshua?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Which is why the bible is errant and untrustworthy.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Not really.
But what maps do you have in mind? The one you showed before is not the Southernmost part of Africa but 6000km to the North, and you have misread it completely.
JesusKnowsYou
Active Member
I personally believe that the Garden of Eden was located in North America. Missouri. Jackson County.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I knew of one Christian that seriously argued that it was in New Jersey. Since it is make believe one can have the Garden of Eden wherever one wants.
And happy birthday!
exchemist
Veteran Member
No no, that's quite wrong, it was obviously in Scotland.
Actually I think somewhere near the headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers would better match the text. Just gotta find the two other rivers. (Actually, there *are* two others having headwaters in the same general area.)
Probably was killed in Noah's flood.
j1i
Smiling is charity without giving money
Aden is a Yemen place in Arabic but not this aden city exactly
But the fact is that the Euphrates and Tigris, and the regions of the Middle East now are not so beautiful, although our government in the UAE is developing infrastructure and fictional projects, but there are much more beautiful and green areas
There is talk about Prophet Muhammad
He says that at the end of the desert the Arabian Peninsula will turn into trees, greenery and rivers
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Egyptologist David Rohl thinks he has a good idea where Eden was using geographic and place name clues. He thinks it was near Tabriz in Azerbaijan. I don't believe Eden was the home of the first two humans; that is nonsense, but it is possible that the Jewish authors believed there ancestors were from this area. From an anthropological point of view, it is interesting that so many innovations after the Neolithic Revolution can be traced to this region.
Shadow Link
Active Member
Yeah*, you really can't kill Truth. It'll rise up again.
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Native
Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
If "educated scholars" have no mythical and astronomical insights, they just assumes lot of things, especially taking celestial/heavenly/mythical topics as geographical locations everywhere on the Earth.
The "Garden of Eden" appears in the biblical context of the Creation of the ancient known part of the observable Universe, our Milky Way.
The mythical description of the central creation and formation in the galactic center is allegorized as "the growth in a garden where everything is created". It´s a "place in heaven", also named "Paradise".
I sort of believe it was. If you think of "humans created in the images of the prime female and male celestial figures" you can find the two hemisphere contours of the Milky Way imagined as a woman on the southern hemisphere and as a man on the northern hemisphere i.e. Eve & Adam.
Links:
Eve - The great Mother Goddess
Adam - The Greatest God in Heaven
Of course E & A are NOT humans but just biblical/mythical/cosmological descriptions and images of "what´s up there in the Sky!" and what it means for us humans. The galactic Adam and Eve is closely connected to the creation in the Milky Way which center is biblically and mythically called "The Garden of Eden" or Paradise in the Sky.
"Eden" has nothing to do with any geographical location at all.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Thanks for your opinion.
JesusKnowsYou
Active Member
What reasons did they give for this belief?
I believe that the Garden of Eden was a literal place and that Adam and Eve were literal people.
Thank you! That's so sweet.
I'm one year closer to leaving this world and finding out all of this stuff on my own!
JesusKnowsYou
Active Member
What led you to that conclusion?No no, that's quite wrong, it was obviously in Scotland.
exchemist
Veteran Member
I was born there, so it stands to reason. Obviously.
Just as Joseph of Arimathea was supposed - by the English, naturally
- to have visited England.
JesusKnowsYou
Active Member
Aw. Interesting.I was born there, so it stands to reason. Obviously.
Just as Joseph of Arimathea was supposed - by the English, naturally
I do not live in Jackson County, Missouri.
Yet, I believe it to be the place because men I believe were prophets of God claimed that it was.