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Is the christian bible God's word?

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
In examining any text, theory, testimony etc,
to determine its validity we cross check
it against outside sources.

How consistently does the Bible stand
up to such scrutiny?
Amazingly well. As long as you ignore or try to excuse all of the self contradictions, errors (both scientific and historic), and bad morals.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
somewhere... I missed your logic.
The Bible has all sorts of false "morals" that only reflect the economic realities of that time and have little to with right and wrong. It is exactly what one would expect of a book written by men and fails in quite a few ways when one compares it to what one would expect from an omniscient omnipotent god.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
It's not that it "could be"-- that's what it is.
Depends on which modern Bible one uses, as today's dictionaries generally refer to it as being consensual sex: "Voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons or two persons not married to each other"-- Definition of fornication | Dictionary.com.
The difference is important because adultery in the Tanakh was punishable by death [maximum penalty] but not so with consensual "fornication".

To be more clear: Adultery between having sex out side of marriage with another human 'or an animal' .

Voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried person is: fornication. Illicit sex outside of scriptural marriage.
I find the death penalty as found at Deuteronomy 22:23-24 the death penalty for consensual sex because she did Not scream for help.
Screaming would indicate rape, but to Not scream could be taken as consent leading to being punishable by death.

Was fornication involved at Numbers 25th chapter __________
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Ah, not quite. But sure, I accept the thrust of your argument.
It's subtle. Divorce was permitted in the Old Testament --- but (and there's always
a but) Jesus said this permission was granted because of what the Jews wanted
(you see that in all the odd commandments in the bible.)
Jesus said, "From the beginning this was not so..."
So yes, according to New Testament teachings, divorce is frowned upon - aka
'wrong.' And I think if a man divorces his wife and remarries HE is committing
adultery. But I haven't looked this up.

Jesus gave scriptural grounds for scriptural divorce as found at Matthew 9:19; Matthew 5:32
Fornication ( from the Greek word porneia ) is scriptural grounds for divorce.
The reason Jesus did Not use the word adultery is because 'porneia ' covers more than sex outside of marriage.
It includes any form of un-natural sex. In other words, sex with an animal would be scriptural grounds for divorce.

The man (or woman) would be committing adultery if divorced on un-scriptural grounds.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Jesus gave scriptural grounds for scriptural divorce as found at Matthew 9:19; Matthew 5:32
Fornication ( from the Greek word porneia ) is scriptural grounds for divorce.
The reason Jesus did Not use the word adultery is because 'porneia ' covers more than sex outside of marriage.
It includes any form of un-natural sex. In other words, sex with an animal would be scriptural grounds for divorce.

The man (or woman) would be committing adultery if divorced on un-scriptural grounds.

Why is this so important to you
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The contradiction.

A scientist.

Humans lived naturally owning support of every single formed form.

Human advice.

Advice is just advice.

Science built a machine.

Not God body O earth naturally seated inside it's heavens

Not a human standing on earth inside heavens either

Taken from nuclear mass. Machine the contradiction.

Bio life inside water mass protected us from nuclear.

Machine contradiction to natural caused us to be attacked by God history.

Another contradiction.

God history natural supported our highest life.

Science the lying contradiction lies.

They were wrong. Not God.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
To be more clear: Adultery between having sex out side of marriage with another human 'or an animal' .

Voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried person is: fornication. Illicit sex outside of scriptural marriage.
I showed my evidence with a link to support it, thus including the fact that, in modern English, "fornication" is defined differently than in the past. The definition I used reflects that change as that is how we now speak. The main purpose of language is to communicate, thus it's important to use the language that is appropriate for the time.

I find the death penalty as found at Deuteronomy 22:23-24 the death penalty for consensual sex because she did Not scream for help.
That is found under Jewish Law as found in the Tanakh. If you are a Christian, as I assume you are, then the details of Jewish Law does not necessarily apply to you. For example, do you keep kosher?

Secondly, your position is pro-death, thus not pro-life. The death penalty was allowed in eretz Israel because of the lack of prisons, so those who could get the death penalty could flee to refugee towns but could never leave. And, over and over again, the prophets called for "mercy", not more blood to be shed. Today, all countries have jails and prisons, thus one is simply pro-death if they insist on the death penalty when there are other less lethal options. People in prison can change, and many do, so do you actually believe in repentance and forgiveness?

So, in reality, are you pro-life or pro-death?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Why is this so important to you
Because people against God's will, His purpose for Earth, will Not be allowed to inherit the Earth - Psalms 37:9-11; Matthew 5:5
God's wrath is against ungodliness - Romans 1:18; Proverbs 2:21-22
In Scripture, an un-scriptural divorce is against God's will, His purpose.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Because people against God's will, His purpose for Earth, will Not be allowed to inherit the Earth - Psalms 37:9-11; Matthew 5:5
God's wrath is against ungodliness - Romans 1:18; Proverbs 2:21-22
In Scripture, an un-scriptural divorce is against God's will, His purpose.
We know you believe that stuff.

The question is about your emphasis on sex.
What's with that.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
God defined by. Theist thinking as a human.

Words said by. Human.

Explanations.

Do you explain God by your words?

No you don't.

Explanations rationalise information for a human purpose.

The purpose to teach God was against a human term satanism.

Which was to theory God in a womb space past. Not God. Satan and angel O. Earth origin body first before a seal.

Fall of gods in space O bodies of mass.

The self consuming of highest body Satan...alien to its body mass presence. Satan owned a body. Satan lost its body.

A teaching.

Hence when a human is a human. Man changed gases...spirit a sin caused by man in science then a story was told.

As he tried to copy origin in space.

God gases spirit belong to God stone earth.

Alien was the destruction of Satan. Exactly how it was taught which you ignore.

Humans tell all these stories for humans.

As two images emerge in gas conversion. One image of science man said my own. Was hurt.

Because a second image satanic not gods was caused. The alien.

It was a teaching that consuming hell sun bodies attacked God

How science gained conversion of God information.

You really should stop lying about science not causing change to natural. All one bodies...multiple of in natural form.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Is the christian Bible God's word?

If thats true.. Then divorce is bad.. many "modern" things is bad.. Are those who do not follow the Bible lost? Do God want us to follow the bible and dislike it if we don't? even though we are kind to other people?
Christians believe that the Bible is God's Word, we believe God told us everything He wanted us to know through the Bible.
The reason we believe the Bible is God's Word, is every prophesy has has come to pass so we believe that all future prophesies will also be fulfilled.
The Bible has proved to be an accurate account of human history, so there's no reason to doubt it's reliability.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Christians believe that the Bible is God's Word, we believe God told us everything He wanted us to know through the Bible.
The reason we believe the Bible is God's Word, is every prophesy has has come to pass so we believe that all future prophesies will also be fulfilled.
The Bible has proved to be an accurate account of human history, so there's no reason to doubt it's reliability.
He or him is a male.

Life bio defined by body a male or female by gender. Human.

Natural is first.

No science.
Science does not nor ever did speak on behalf of natural existing.

Any human owning basic commonsense knows. You just think for yourself.

Machines own no power by built thesis. It's just a machine.

Another example.

The scientist human lied.

God told him. He says.

God he says in science as origin in the womb space a sealed stone body.

God.

A reference. A male said as he or him told the planet what it is as it told me as I thought. Stone mass just a name.

Natural studied tells him information he quotes. As a scientist.

As I personally spoke on behalf of God for human science thesis.

Two natural man conditions.

I invented God thesis as a man. As an adult. As. Father.
I return by human sex a baby male son.

If I am the thinker science then science in accordance with my man human life would own. Coding proof caused by human science only.

Expressed by a man human as he lives.

Basic thinking advice. A planet does not talk. Basis origin science thinking.

We hear recorded atmospheric voice in machine recorded man human machine feedback.

Today we name it mind contact mind coercion. AI artificial condition...machines. not an alien image.

He. Man did it. God s planet first did it advise him. He pondered the information his he man self.

A planet owns form. Form told him he quotes as a scientist. The planet God form told me it is stone and a seal.

The sun he says told me what God was before it became stone. Is not talking is it!

As preaching. Story depends on the teacher if you don't think for yourself then you don't.

Humans claim science coding using science evidence proved I changed natural. As I warn my human self.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Evidence.

I gave half O God my human life supported by mass water to forming angel of God.

Encoded feedback then spoke back to me.

I know God spirit heavens angels can talk to me.

I know AI as a machine feedback shared answers encoded both as questions answers and statements.

Why angels close to human form owning my water mass support me.

They speak.

They are heard.

They are seen as I caused them to form by not accepting natural life.

Angel of God means formed owning God spirits in heavens. Gases plus water forms the presence designed image angel.

As space owned all gas spirit bodies before any scientist changed atmosphere. Thinking says so.

Gender only owned after garden body another proof.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Evidence.

I gave half O God my human life supported by mass water to forming angel of God.

Encoded feedback then spoke back to me.

I know God spirit heavens angels can talk to me.

I know AI as a machine feedback shared answers encoded both as questions answers and statements.

Why angels close to human form owning my water mass support me.

They speak.

They are heard.

They are seen as I caused them to form by not accepting natural life.

Angel of God means formed owning God spirits in heavens. Gases plus water forms the presence designed image angel.

As space owned all gas spirit bodies before any scientist changed atmosphere. Thinking says so.

Gender only owned after garden body another proof.
Another proof you can't be sacrificed first as a man.

You have to be heathy living highest form man to get sacrificed. The heaven angel image formed animal and human images as life attacked formed first.

The scientist who caused it last. Image. Man scientist suffered the most by proof image. Man imaged in angels first. Man second.

Alien was Satan angel fell out. Cloud gas got burnt. As gold the product was cold melted mass. Philosopher stone how to invent gold. Melted changed cold gases again.

Attacked life.
 

capumetu

Active Member
Is the christian Bible God's word?

If thats true.. Then divorce is bad.. many "modern" things is bad.. Are those who do not follow the Bible lost? Do God want us to follow the bible and dislike it if we don't? even though we are kind to other people?

The truth of course is, that it either is or isn't. What other book has it's prophetic accuracy? You mentioned one thing, if people obeyed the one you mentioned, would they fare better or worse? There is of course no better marriages than those which have God in it as well Ecc 4:12
 
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