JesusIsTheWay
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Is the Bible the absolute, infallible, Word of God? What do you think?
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Is the Bible the absolute, infallible, Word of God?
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JesusIsTheWay
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Why do you say that?jonny said:
1. I don't believe that all the translations are 100% accurate.
2. I don't believe that every inspired word ever written is contained in the Bible.
3. It was written by imperfect humans, so I don't believe that it is incapable of imperfections.
4. I don't believe it is absolute because that it putting limitations on God's ability or willingness to reveal further truth. I don't believe that a book can limit God.
2. I don't believe that every inspired word ever written is contained in the Bible.
3. It was written by imperfect humans, so I don't believe that it is incapable of imperfections.
4. I don't believe it is absolute because that it putting limitations on God's ability or willingness to reveal further truth. I don't believe that a book can limit God.
JesusIsTheWay
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Thats really a whole different debate... But I'm specificly talking about the originals.
What do you mean by "inspired"?
Imperfect humans inspired by the Holy Spirit.
You can't limit God, that's very true. Okay, what more would you like God to reveal? (I'm not trying to mock, I'm asking a serious question.)
Anything writing that comes from God is inspired. There were plenty of documents written that we not chosen to be included in the Bible. The Bible itself even mentions books that were not included.JesusIsTheWay said:
The fact that they are imperfect leaves the possibility that there are flaws in what they felt was inspiration from God. The idea that they were inspired leaves the probability that there are not very many.JesusIsTheWay said:
Anything that will help me achieve eternal life. I'm LDS so I obviously believe in continuing revalation. One of our Articles of Faith states, We believe in all that God has revealed, all that he does now reveal, and we believe he will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the kingdom of God.JesusIsTheWay said:
JesusIsTheWay
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Your contradicting yourself here. Since the Bible or any other document that "claims" to be inspired is written by imperfect humans, how can anything really be inspired? How could anybody really recieve a "revelation from God" if they will just mess it up? Is the Bible written by God? How do we know what they are writting is truly "inspired"?
The fact that people claim to be inspired who may not be inspired does not discredit the claim that some people actually are inspired. I'm just saying that I don't know 100% that every word in the Bible is 100% accurate. That doesn't mean I don't believe the Bible is the primary resource for learning about God and Christ.
Take the example of Paul's vision. He wrote the same story three times and every time the details were different. In one account Saul was the only one to fall to the earth. In another everyone traveling with him fell to the earth. In one account they all heard the voice. In another account they didn't hear the voice. It's not important, but it shows that the Bible isn't perfect.
The Bible was not written by God. It was written by men. If God had appeared with a book he wrote I would say that God wrote the book. Unfortunately, he didn't.
Take the example of Paul's vision. He wrote the same story three times and every time the details were different. In one account Saul was the only one to fall to the earth. In another everyone traveling with him fell to the earth. In one account they all heard the voice. In another account they didn't hear the voice. It's not important, but it shows that the Bible isn't perfect.
The Bible was not written by God. It was written by men. If God had appeared with a book he wrote I would say that God wrote the book. Unfortunately, he didn't.
BruceDLimber
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Greetings, all! 
As a Baha'i, I would say that the Bible is most definitely the word of God, and that although it has suffered certain alterations and corruptions over time, these fortunately have not diminished its spiritual message to date!
However, I disagree with the word "absolute" and posit that the Bible, like the many other other scriptural works over the ages, contains relative truth because, as stated in the Baha'i scriptures, the only absolute is God Himself!
Best,
Bruce
As a Baha'i, I would say that the Bible is most definitely the word of God, and that although it has suffered certain alterations and corruptions over time, these fortunately have not diminished its spiritual message to date!
However, I disagree with the word "absolute" and posit that the Bible, like the many other other scriptural works over the ages, contains relative truth because, as stated in the Baha'i scriptures, the only absolute is God Himself!
Best,
Bruce
Scott1
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... the problem is, that these same men who were "inspired" to define the Canon of Scripture were also called "cannibals" because they believed Communion to be the actual body and blood of Christ.JesusIsTheWay said:
I have a hard time with people who accept one action (Bible) as "inspired" and other actions (Trinity/Bishops/Real Presence/Sacraments/etc etc) that don't suit them as "mistakes".
Sanctified_by_Faith
New Member
What the heck are you talking about!! They were not cannibals!! To be a cannibal you have to eat another human and in case you didnt know they didnt eat jesus!! They use his body that was bruised for are iniquities and the blood that was shed at calvary to represent the bread and juice as a symbolic rememberance for what jesus did for us! Jesus even told them to do it as often as you eat and drink in rememberance of him! Jesus told them and us to do it!!!
Sanctified_by_Faith
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THE HOLY BIBLE
The versions are just translated differently but it still is the same thing!!
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
What I think is that the options in your poll left me with no choice but to vote "No." And yet I do believe it to be the word of God -- as far as it is translated correctly. The Bible was not given to us in its original form, and we haven't one single solitary original document. We have only copies of copies of copies of copies.JesusIsTheWay said:
It is also not the sole word of God, nor does it claim to be. It is missing more than a dozen books that are mentioned within its pages, and specifically states that not all of what Jesus taught was even written down.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Hey, Sanctified! Calm down! You're fighting the wrong person. Scott didn't say anyone was a cannibal. He said some of the early Christians were being accused of cannibalism because of their belief that the bread and wine they used to comemorate the Last Supper were actually Jesus' body and blood. You need to read these posts a bit more carefully or you'll end up having a stroke or something!Sanctified_by_Faith said: