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Is the bible all about Jesus Christ?
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Altfish
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This is like Shakespeare's Julius Caesar; the pay is named after a character that gets killed early on, so why isn't it named (say) Mark Anthony.Claim: The Holy Bible in its entirety (i.e. both the Hebrew and Christian scriptures) is a book that is all about Jesus Christ.
Do you agree or disagree?
I heard someone claim this the other day and though it would be a good (and hopefully contentious) topic for RF
Likewise The Bible, JC doesn't appear to the second half, so can it really be all about him?
I think one could argue that it gradually builds up to him, as a result of divine providence inspiring its authors
Altfish
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The argument with Julius Caesar is that the last 2/3rds of the play is all about his influences.
Unveiled Artist
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Claim: The Holy Bible in its entirety (i.e. both the Hebrew and Christian scriptures) is a book that is all about Jesus Christ.
Do you agree or disagree?
I heard someone claim this the other day and though it would be a good (and hopefully contentious) topic for RF
No. I'd liken the Jews point of view and their view of how the Torah has no signs of the upcoming Christ.
Usually you read a book from beginning to end but it seems many read the end and assume the beginning should line up. I don't believe that's how it works but, well.
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Kelly of the Phoenix
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He is not in Jewish scripture and barely is anything more than an extended cameo in the New Testament.
Audie
Veteran Member
Somewhere I read that all of his supposed words could be read in four minutes.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
I disagree.Claim: The Holy Bible in its entirety (i.e. both the Hebrew and Christian scriptures) is a book that is all about Jesus Christ.
Do you agree or disagree?
I heard someone claim this the other day and though it would be a good (and hopefully contentious) topic for RF
You have no reason to think about Jesus in the OT unless you are trying to put Jesus in the OT.
I think Bible is all about righteousness and love, to understand what that means and to make person righteous, because eternal life is promised for those who are righteous. And also, because, if person is righteous, he has right understanding which leads the person to do good things.
These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23
He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
1 John 3:7-10
74x12
Well-Known Member
Yes it is. Jesus said:Claim: The Holy Bible in its entirety (i.e. both the Hebrew and Christian scriptures) is a book that is all about Jesus Christ.
Do you agree or disagree?
I heard someone claim this the other day and though it would be a good (and hopefully contentious) topic for RF
John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
So of course it is and that's not really surprising because Jesus is God. So of course the scriptures are about God.
Audie
Veteran Member
How could you get righteouser than killing a girls family then check to see if she is a virgin
before deciding to kill or rape her?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. Only because Jews don't recognize Christ and they are the major authority on matters of the Old Testament.Claim: The Holy Bible in its entirety (i.e. both the Hebrew and Christian scriptures) is a book that is all about Jesus Christ.
Do you agree or disagree?
I heard someone claim this the other day and though it would be a good (and hopefully contentious) topic for RF
I don’t think righteous person rapes anyone. And for killing there should be really good reason before righteous could do that.
Audie
Veteran Member
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Like a direct order from god:
Deuteronomy 20:16-18 King James Version (KJV)
But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee: That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee: That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
Bible doesn’t order rape.
Audie
Veteran Member
You do know the passage i refer to?
I know there is no passage in Bible that orders rape.
Audie
Veteran Member
Cute. You know the one about raiding a city,
killing everyone but the girls...try for a bit imagining the scene in detail...and then blood splattered soldiers inspecting the terrified girls,
to see if they are intact. Kill them if not.
Then carry off the girls who pass for, ah, a tea party? Piano lessons?
Why part of this directive is marvelous,
and just what you'd like if you were one of the girls ?