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Is the Arab World's explusion of Jews news to you?

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I've know about that since perhaps 1967. It's not a new story to Jews although like much of history, unknown to the many who don't pay attention.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
This is not new news. There are plenty of articles available online about it from over the years.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
That is because of the Jews expelling close to 1 million Palestinians from Israel around 1948.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I have no respect for both of them, they have always hated each others guts, I wish sometimes they would just get it over and done with.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
The Israelis expelled 1 miilion Arabs, the Arab nations responded by expelling almost 1 million Jews, seems like the Israeli's started it, and its pretty much equal effect on both sides, what's so funny about that???
 

Jedster

Well-Known Member
Over the last 60-70 years, the Arab world has expelled about 99% of its - well established - Jewish population. At the end of WW II about 850,000 Jews lived in the "Arab World". Today that number is about 8,500.

The Middle East's Greatest Untold Story | The Huffington Post
Most of the Arabs left Palestine temporarily , at the bequest of their Arab neighbours who were going to 'drive the Jews into the sea' so that they could return to a Jew free place. This is easily verifyable by meeting with the Arabs that did not leave and became Israelis.
The`Arab states should have accepted the partition, but they couldn't even tolerate a minscule state for Jews.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Yeah, I guess if you would consider ethnic cleansing voluntary!!
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
The Israelis expelled 1 miilion Arabs, the Arab nations responded by expelling almost 1 million Jews, seems like the Israeli's started it, and its pretty much equal effect on both sides, what's so funny about that???

"They started it" is not an excuse to exercise retaliation on innocent, law-abiding citizens. "They started it" is usually the excuse of people who don't want to engage in any kind of self-examination or consider that they may be wrong in their actions.

Did all of the Jews that Arab countries expelled harm anyone? Did they partake in expelling Arabs from Palestine? If not, then by what logic was it justified to expel them from their homes?

I find it interesting that you are acting as an apologist for such expulsion in this thread while decrying the expulsion of immigrants from the U.S. So, apparently expelling nationals from their homes on the basis of religion is justified because "they started it," but expelling immigrants from a country that hasn't always been their home isn't (and I think neither is acceptable or justified).

9/11 happened? It's because the U.S. interfered in other countries!

Factions of Islamic extremists are fighting and killing each other in Syria and Iraq? The U.S. and the West started it! (And there's a lot of truth to that, but it's far from the whole truth.)

Arab countries expelled many Jews from their homes? Israel started it!

I wonder when the Arab and Muslim world will start to look realistically at the issues facing the region. Scapegoating, shifting blame, and refusing to look in the mirror are not going to solve anything any time soon.
 
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Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I'm not justifying ethnic cleansing by any party, just trying to point out that the Arab expulsion of Jews was in reaction to a hostile takeover and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, an unpleasant truth the OP doesn't seem to consider in his post. AT least the Jews had a hospitable homeland to move to, something that has been largely denied to the Palestinian refugees.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
AH do you have a history of Palerstinian refugees that's not written by Jews, seem there might be some bias at play here.
 

Limo

Active Member
Over the last 60-70 years, the Arab world has expelled about 99% of its - well established - Jewish population. At the end of WW II about 850,000 Jews lived in the "Arab World". Today that number is about 8,500.

The Middle East's Greatest Untold Story | The Huffington Post
This is totally wrong.
The story begins several centuries before Israel state in 1947.
Arab and Islamic centuries were the safest refugee on earth for millions of Jews run away from Europe and Russia.

During 19th century, Zionest movements have been established and in 1897 lead by In 1896 Theodor Herzl they decided that Palestine is the place of a state to Jews (not Argentine not Kenya).

Balfour Declaration of 1917. It stated that the British Government "view[ed] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people"

Then Jews started to flee from not only Arab world but from the whole world to Palestine.

In thirties of the 20th century, Jews started to formulate armed groups that have killed Arabs to run away from their lands. Hundreds of thousands of Arabs have run away from Palestine.
During this bloody period even UK listed many Zionist organizations as terrorists organization especially after explosion of King David Hotel the headquarter of the British government in Palestine BY Irgun organization 91 people were killed
During that time, Jews were voluntary go to the promised land till wars started in 1948.
Till that time and even early fifties the rate of immigration of Jews were slow from Zionists point of view.

Even though, a lot of Arabic Jews were totally loyal to their countries and refused to immigrate to Israel. Also, there are anti-Zionist movements till date against establishment of a Jewish state for regional reasons.

At that time, Israel faked a serious of bombarding in Arab countries targeting the Jewish Synagogues as if it's managed by Arabs Lavon Affair
There did the same in Iraqi and Yemen.
Then panic immigration started from Arab world.

Vice versa Arab countries were trying to stop immigration to avoid complication of the issue in Palestine.

Unfortunately, by time wars started and Jews felt that they live in a hostile environment.

Regards
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
AH do you have a history of Palerstinian refugees that's not written by Jews, seem there might be some bias at play here.
If you have trouble with the sources that are quoted then prove them wrong. Otherwise, don't criticize the writer because of his birth.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
This is totally wrong.
The story begins several centuries before Israel state in 1947.
Arab and Islamic centuries were the safest refugee on earth for millions of Jews run away from Europe and Russia.

During 19th century, Zionest movements have been established and in 1897 lead by In 1896 Theodor Herzl they decided that Palestine is the place of a state to Jews (not Argentine not Kenya).

Balfour Declaration of 1917. It stated that the British Government "view[ed] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people"

Then Jews started to flee from not only Arab world but from the whole world to Palestine.

In thirties of the 20th century, Jews started to formulate armed groups that have killed Arabs to run away from their lands. Hundreds of thousands of Arabs have run away from Palestine.
During this bloody period even UK listed many Zionist organizations as terrorists organization especially after explosion of King David Hotel the headquarter of the British government in Palestine BY Irgun organization 91 people were killed
During that time, Jews were voluntary go to the promised land till wars started in 1948.
Till that time and even early fifties the rate of immigration of Jews were slow from Zionists point of view.

Even though, a lot of Arabic Jews were totally loyal to their countries and refused to immigrate to Israel. Also, there are anti-Zionist movements till date against establishment of a Jewish state for regional reasons.

At that time, Israel faked a serious of bombarding in Arab countries targeting the Jewish Synagogues as if it's managed by Arabs Lavon Affair
There did the same in Iraqi and Yemen.
Then panic immigration started from Arab world.

Vice versa Arab countries were trying to stop immigration to avoid complication of the issue in Palestine.

Unfortunately, by time wars started and Jews felt that they live in a hostile environment.

Regards
I'm not sure that's quite the case.

In a key address before the Political Committee of the U.N. General Assembly on November 14, 1947, just five days before that body voted on the partition plan for Palestine, Heykal Pasha, an Egyptian delegate, made the following key statement in connection with that plan:

The United Nations . . . should not lose sight of the fact that the proposed solution might endanger a million Jews living in the Moslem countries. Partition of Palestine might create in those countries an anti-Semitism even more difficult to root out than the anti-Semitism which the Allies were trying to eradicate in Germany. . . If the United Nations decides to partition Palestine, it might be responsible for the massacre of a large number of Jews.
Heykal Pasha then elaborated on his threat:

A million Jews live in peace in Egypt [and other Muslim countries] and enjoy all rights of citizenship. They have no desire to emigrate to Palestine. However, if a Jewish State were established, nobody could prevent disorders. Riots would break out in Palestine, would spread through all the Arab states and might lead to a war between two races.1
Heykal Pasha's thinly veiled threats of "grave disorders," "massacre," "riots," and "war between two races" did not at the time go unnoticed by Jews;2

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Particularly noteworthy is that although Heykal Pasha spoke at the United Nations in his capacity as a representative of Egypt, he continuously mentioned the Jews "in other Muslim countries" and "all the Arab states," suggesting a level of coordination among the Arab governments. Indeed, four days after his statement, Iraq's Foreign Minister Fadil Jamali declared at the United Nations that "interreligious prejudice and hatred" would bring about a great deterioration in the Arab-Jewish relationship in Iraq and in the Arab world at large,4 thereby reinforcing the impression that Heykal Pasha was talking not just on behalf of Egypt but for all the independent Arab states. Further confirmation came several days later, after the General Assembly had decided in favor of partitioning Palestine, when, "following orders issued by the Arab League,"5 Muslims engaged in outrages against Jews living in Aden and Aleppo.6

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According to Walid Khalidi, perhaps the leading Palestinian nationalist historian and a highly reputable source, "The Arabs held their ground throughout the period from November 1947 to March 1948. Up to March 1, not one single Arab village had been vacated by its inhabitants, and the number of people leaving the mixed towns was insignificant."8 The mass departure from Palestine of 590,000 Arabs began only in April 1948; yet , Heykal Pasha had publicly and very formally announced a program to expel Jews from Arab countries fully five months earlier.

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As mentioned above, the Iraqi authorities openly and formally identified themselves with Heykal Pasha's threats just four days after he uttered them. Foreign Minister Jamali addressed the United Nations in this manner:

The masses in the Arab world cannot be restrained. The Arab-Jewish relationship in the Arab world will greatly deteriorate. . . . Harmony prevails among Muslems, Christians and Jews [in Iraq]. But any injustice imposed upon the Arabs of Palestine will disturb the harmony among Jews and non-Jews in Iraq; it will breed interreligious prejudice and hatred.9
By "the masses in the Arab world," Jamali in fact meant his own government, which soon took a series of steps, including anti-Semitic legislation, against its Jewish population. This began with a 1948 amendment to the Penal Code of Baghdad, adding Zionism to other ideologies and behavior (communism, anarchism, and immorality) whose propagation constituted a punishable offense. Laws in 1950 and 1951 the deprived Jews of their Iraqi nationality and their property in Iraq, respectively.10
Etc. etc.
 
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