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Featured Is satan a type of animal?

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by questfortruth, Jan 14, 2022 at 12:44 AM.

  1. QuestioningMind

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    Is Captain Crunch a kind of plant? Is Santa Claus a type of fungi?
     
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    @questfortruth Why did you edit your opening post to include the posts you made later on in the thread? It makes it rather confusing for people clicking on the thread for the first time - when they see the subject title "Is Satan a type of animal?" but then the first 6 paragraphs of the opening post are about your CV, becoming funnier, and something about, er, a toilet room... It's all a bit random!

    Of course, if you now go back and edit your first post again, then this post here will make no sense, and I'll look like the random madman instead!

    Anyway, it's always nice to see people enquiring about Satan and taking a healthy interest in Him! :smilingimp:
     
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    Yes, but humans are not equal, some are mostly kind and some mostly wicked, why is this so?
    And also since they are not equal, some are easily deceived, and some not.
    Also there is such a thing as collective consciousness that can influence people's thinking and behavior, can be good, or evil, or just benign. We see it in operation with gangs, football clubs, ethnicities, nationalities, religious cults, etc, schools, etc.. We see it in the animal, fish, and bird kingdoms,
     
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    Better yet, is bacon a type of lettuce?
     
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    A supernatural evil being can be one of many Gods.
     
  6. firedragon

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    But Satan? I am referring specifically to satan based on your statement.

    But I think you are referring to something else so thanks for the response.
     
  7. Tiberius

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    How do you group infinite in with the finite numbers?
     
  8. questfortruth

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    I am referring specifically to Satan. A supernatural evil being can be one of many Gods.
     
  10. firedragon

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    Maybe you can give an example, and lets see what you are talking about.
     
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    In Islam, satan is not an angel. They are jinn who were created from smokeless fire. The jinn are part of the unseen. In Islam, there are jinn in this life, some make themselves known to people, some possess, some scare, some even kill and do much more horrible atrocities. There are also good jinn as well as bad jinn. There are Muslim jinn, Christian jinn and other jinn in other religions. They are on this earth as part of the unseen in Islam. If you wish to know more about them, just ask.

    In Islam, we know that Allah has created mankind to worship Him alone.
     
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    lol proof?
     
  13. shunyadragon

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    Different ancient religions have multiple lesser Gods, some good and some evil. The Old Testament refers to a council of Gods, multiple Deities, and angels preexisting Creation.
     
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    Although Quran is not explicit when it discusses the Bible, I believe Quran shows exalted ones are better translations for what is often translated as "gods".
     
  15. firedragon

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    Ancient religions had evil gods of course. Even today some do. Some worship a god called hooniyam devi which is to curse people only.

    But is that Satan? I know that the Bible in one passage refers to Satan as the God of the world. But this God word is used for many things. Its not necessarily a God the way you are speaking of. For example, Moses was sent as a God (Elohim). That does not make Moses a God. Its the language.

    Nevertheless, thanks for the clarification.
     
  16. Tiberius

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    Yeah, you do realise that infinity is not among the finite numbers, right?

    You might as well say, "The number of digits after the decimal place in the value of pi is not finite, therefore there are no digits after the decimal place in pi."
     
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    Easy.

    All churches, temples, mosques, etc were built by Humans. Humans are in the group "apes." Therefore all churches, temples, mosques, etc, were built by apes.
     
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    Satan in Genesis is portrayed as a snake or serpent. This is a metaphor. A snake is linear or 1-D. It is long, straight and without legs. A snake is also cold blooded. The snake is a metaphor for the linear instinctive impulses of cold blooded animals. A snake has no emotional sentiment or thought being added to his linear instinct to help him make unique decisions. The latter is more true of warm blooded animals.

    This 1-D nature, is the nature of law, which would come from knowledge of good and evil. Law causes culture to think it can think for you. You need to obey the law in a linear way; cold blooded, or be punished. Intellectual and emotional reasoning, even if sound, will not stop you from being arrested and punished since law is 1-D in terms of application; no exceptions. Tell it to the judge. Law can make hearts grow cold since being 1-D obedient never exercises your emotional nature; self righteous.

    Knowledge of good and evil, although 2-D, which can lead to reason, is made is linear by the application called Law. The law does not care about sound rational excuses, unless you hire a lawyer. In the end, you still have to pay a price for daring not to be linear. The Covid mandates are very linear in terms of what needs to done not to be shafted by big brother. You are expected to be linear like a cold blooded animal even in light of contrary evidence.

    Satan was originally Lucifer. As Lucifer, he assisted God during physical creation. His 1-D impulses added variety to nature such as different and unique colors and styles. But this was good since all was still under natural instinct; 3-D; spatially integrated. Lucifer was the morning star, the brightest of all angels. But as Lucifer evolved into Satan, he became more 2-D; good and evil. This was a 2-D value judgement that tries to substitute for the 3-D integrated nature of instinct.

    The 2-D nature of Satan; good and evil, appearing as a1-D metaphor of the snake, shows that although Satan was both good and evil, law would become 1-D at any point in time. It would evolve via 2-D; logic, over time. Satan was in charge of humans. He was 2-D and could swing either way to create awareness, until 2-D logic could change 1-D law, into 2-D guidelines. Not all things edify, so knowing what is useful from what is useless, can help one overcome linear impulses, so one became become more 2-D; reasonable. This was hinted at by Jesus, where the 1-D nature of law was superseded by faith and reason.
     
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    To each his own...but me, my ancestors were thinkers lol not hangin from trees who still to this day, hangin from trees and can't think like a human lol
     
  20. SalixIncendium

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    The point lol is that humans lol are a species of the great apes (hominids) lol. It's not lol a matter of opinion lol.
     
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