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Is premarital sex a sin?

Discussion in 'Liberal Christianity DIR' started by Doodlebug02, Nov 4, 2007.

  1. Doodlebug02

    Doodlebug02 Active Member

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    What about sex between two men? Is there anything wrong with that in your view? Also, the Book of Leviticus condemns things like eating shrimp so how could a person possibly consider it to be a valid moral code for today?
     
  2. blackout

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    ...this "person" (leading you down the dark and dungy road)
    could just as easily be a spouse.

    marriage is neither prevention or cure from such a thing.
    neither is unmarried intimacy "cause" of such a thing.

    How can you possibly assert that a relationship of intimacy
    outside some legal marriage will not help you grow?

    and do you have any idea HOW MANY people are hurt in/by their marriages?

    marriage is no panacea or guarantee of anything at all.
    nothing.
     
  3. davidthegreek

    davidthegreek Active Member

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    I don't know.
     
  4. davidthegreek

    davidthegreek Active Member

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    she conceived by the holy spirit. She was a virgin.
     
  5. Titanic

    Titanic Well-Known Member

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    I do not think so.
     
  6. HankHill

    HankHill Indian-American Ex-Hindu

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    If you take Christianity to be your moral standard, then yes premarital sex is a sin. But in the 21st century, we all take certain things to be immoral even though our religion did (at least at one point) condone it- e.g.: witch hunts, stoning adulterers, hanging homosexuals, polygamy, offering daughters in marriage as if they were money or livestock. In this sense it really comes down to what you personally consider to be part of your religion versus what you think of as outdated or a cultural trapping. If you are a conservative (which I am), you'll see premarital sex and homosexual acts as immoral, whereas if you are a liberal, you will consider those prohibitions to be outdated like the prohibitions on eating shellfish, wearing mixed-material fabrics, etc. To each his or her own.
     
  7. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    Gotta ask, why are premarital sex and homosexual acts considered immoral by conservatives?
    "We’re seeing more and more conservatives coming out in favor of gay marriage. After Mitt Romney’s defeat, former Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman published an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal making what he regards as a conservative case for gay marriage:"
    source

    "Conservative effort underway in push for gay marriage"
    source
     
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  8. HankHill

    HankHill Indian-American Ex-Hindu

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    Well I'd say that conservatives generally favor what are considered "traditional" positions on issues of morality. Saving sex for marriage falls into that category even though the majority of the US population engages in premarital sex. As to homosexuality, it falls outside the traditional sensibility of love and marriage. I look it at it as basically an old school vs. new school kind of thing despite many conservatives' attempts to try to paint it as something involving God's will, human nature, or other lofty ideas.

    As to your sources, I mean "conservatives" in terms of social and religious views, not politics. I myself am a moderate who couldn't care less about the gay marriage debate and am pro-choice.
     
  9. StarryNightshade

    StarryNightshade Your favorite Heterodox Jew.
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    Personally, it depends. However, keep in mind that I hate the term "sin", so I'm only going by semantics.

    When two people have sex, it can be fueled by lust or "love" (another term I'm not too fond of). One need not be married to be in love and marriage is oftentimes fueled by lust. Sex just so happens to be a byproduct of when two (or more) people have strong feelings for one another. So, depending on the people and mindsets involved, it both is and it isn't.
     
  10. HankHill

    HankHill Indian-American Ex-Hindu

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    Bar-Jesus who Paul mentions in Acts 13 is really the only one that comes to mind.
     
  11. John Martin

    John Martin Active Member

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    premarital sex is sin if it is done without responsibility. It is sin if the relationship is based on subject and object. It is sin if there is no real love and longtime commitment. Recently in Indian court passed a judgement saying: if two legal adults have consensual sex they should be considered as husband and wife.
     
  12. ZooGirl02

    ZooGirl02 Well-Known Member

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    Well, a couple who loves each other and has sex will often strengthen their love for each other through the intimacy of sex. At least that's my experience.
     
  13. Thirza Fallen

    Thirza Fallen Crazy Cat Lady

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    Marriage back then was a pretty casual thing arranged by the family. Most were prearranged between an older man and a young girl. I would not be surprised if people looked the other way when men had sex before then, but it would probably be pretty unusual for a girl to have sex that young.
     
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