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Is Muhammad true or false Prophet?

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
The question is, People will have to judge for themselves, is Muhammad a true or false Prophet.

Muhammad say in Qu'ran 5:47--"So let the people of the Gospel rule according to what Allah revealed in it. Those who do not rule according to what Allah revealed are the sinners.

The Gospels that Muhammad, being in reference to is, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John these being the 4 Gospels of the New Testament, Bible.

It seems Muhammad, He, himself, don't even follow his own word, Muhammad tells others to follow what Allah ( God) revealed in the Gospels, But yet Muhammad, He, himself don't even follow what Allah ( God) has revealed in the Gospel's. So how is this to work.

Seeing Muhammad is the prophet of Islam and seeing that Islam don't even follow what is revealed in the Gospels, wouldn't that make all Islam sinners ?

It seems Muhammad is always found in putting words in the mouth of Allah ( God) That Allah
( God) never spoken.

There's nothing wrong with Allah ( God) it's the messenger ( Muhammad) that's wrong, giving the wrong message.

Seeing Muhammad takes Deuteronomy 18:18--
--"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him"

To be in reference to himself, maybe Muhammad should read the rest of the
verses 19-22.
If a person reads Verses 19-22, they will find, if that prophet, that's spoken about in
Verse 18, speaks a word that Allah ( God) did not speak. That Prophet is only presuming to speak a word for (God) Allah.

Verse 19--"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him"

Seeing Muhammad, he, himself, speaks in the name of Allah ( God) but Muhammad himself do not follow the words of Allah ( God) himself.

Verse 20--"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die"

If a person had notice that the whole
chapter 18 of Deuteronomy, it is God that's doing all the talking.
Where as in the Quran, it's Muhammad that does all the talking, saying, Allah say this or Allah say that, but nothing that Allah actually will say himself.

Notice, God saying ( But the prophet, which shall (presume) to speak a word in my name.

So seeing Muhammad claims himself to be that prophet and God saying that prophet presums to speak in his name.
Meaning, That whatever that prophet will say in the name of God ( Allah) that prophet is only presuming God ( Allah) is saying that, without Allah ( God) actually saying anything to verify what Muhammad is saying.

So what it comes down to, is that Muhammad is only presuming Allah ( God) saying this or that. Without any verification that Allah ( God) did say this or that.

So what this means is, Allah ( God) never commanded Muhammad to speak in his name. It's only Muhammad presuming that Allah (God)
Said this or that, without Allah ( God) actually saying anything.

Where as if a person reads the bible,they will find God doing the talking, But where as in
Qu'ran Muhammad is doing all the talking.

Is there any wonder as to why Christ Jesus said what he said in the book of
Matthew 24:24-26---"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not"

If a person notice in verse 24, that there shall come false Christ's and false prophets, showing great signs and wonders, This meaning these false Christ's and false prophets presuming to do these things in( God's) Allah's name,

Notice in Verse 26, Seeing that Jesus is giving where these false Christ's and false prophets can be located at, In the desert, and Muhammad is such a false prophet that's located in the desert.

Muhammad say he is messenger in Quran but no where does Allah ( God) say this. To verify what Muhammad will say in the Quran.

Notice everything Is Muhammad saying, But nothing Allah ( God) saying, only Muhammad say this or that in the Quran

3:144]
Muhammad is no more than messenger. Messengers have passed on before him. If he dies or gets killed, will you turn on your heels? He who turns on his heels will not harm Allah in any way. And Allah will reward the appreciative.
[33:40]

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men; but he is the Messengerof Allah, and the seal of the prophets. Allah is Cognizant of everything.
[48:29]

Muhammad is the Messenger ofAllah. Those with him are stern against the disbelievers, yet compassionate amongst themselves. You see them kneeling, prostrating, seeking blessings from Allah and approval. Their marks are on their faces from the effects of prostration. Such is their description in the Torah, and their description in the Gospel: like a plant that sprouts, becomes strong, grows thick, and rests on its stem, impressing the farmers. Through them He enrages the disbelievers. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good deeds forgiveness and a great reward.

So the question is, With all of this, the question to be answered is,
Is Muhammad really who he claims to be?

Without any verification from
Allah ( God) in all the Quran, that Muhammad is who he claims to be?
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
Are there true astrologers, or
honest used car salesmen?

"Mohammed" was as true as any
other "prophet".

People has a tendency to
throw rocks at prophets, or poke
them with sharp sticks. Not
nearly often enough.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
False dichotomy. I don't believe Muhammed was a "true" prophet, but I don't believe the only alternative is that he were what's generalky understood as a "false" one, either. I believe Muhammad sincerely believed what he said, even though I don't believe what he said was true.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
The question is, People will have to judge for themselves, is Muhammad a true or false Prophet.

Muhammad say in Qu'ran 5:47--"So let the people of the Gospel rule according to what Allah revealed in it. Those who do not rule according to what Allah revealed are the sinners.

The Gospels that Muhammad, being in reference to is, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John these being the 4 Gospels of the New Testament, Bible.

It seems Muhammad, He, himself, don't even follow his own word, Muhammad tells others to follow what Allah ( God) revealed in the Gospels, But yet Muhammad, He, himself don't even follow what Allah ( God) has revealed in the Gospel's. So how is this to work.

Seeing Muhammad is the prophet of Islam and seeing that Islam don't even follow what is revealed in the Gospels, wouldn't that make all Islam sinners ?

It seems Muhammad is always found in putting words in the mouth of Allah ( God) That Allah
( God) never spoken.

There's nothing wrong with Allah ( God) it's the messenger ( Muhammad) that's wrong, giving the wrong message.

Seeing Muhammad takes Deuteronomy 18:18--
--"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him"

To be in reference to himself, maybe Muhammad should read the rest of the
verses 19-22.
If a person reads Verses 19-22, they will find, if that prophet, that's spoken about in
Verse 18, speaks a word that Allah ( God) did not speak. That Prophet is only presuming to speak a word for (God) Allah.

Verse 19--"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him"

Seeing Muhammad, he, himself, speaks in the name of Allah ( God) but Muhammad himself do not follow the words of Allah ( God) himself.

Verse 20--"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die"

If a person had notice that the whole
chapter 18 of Deuteronomy, it is God that's doing all the talking.
Where as in the Quran, it's Muhammad that does all the talking, saying, Allah say this or Allah say that, but nothing that Allah actually will say himself.

Notice, God saying ( But the prophet, which shall (presume) to speak a word in my name.

So seeing Muhammad claims himself to be that prophet and God saying that prophet presums to speak in his name.
Meaning, That whatever that prophet will say in the name of God ( Allah) that prophet is only presuming God ( Allah) is saying that, without Allah ( God) actually saying anything to verify what Muhammad is saying.

So what it comes down to, is that Muhammad is only presuming Allah ( God) saying this or that. Without any verification that Allah ( God) did say this or that.

So what this means is, Allah ( God) never commanded Muhammad to speak in his name. It's only Muhammad presuming that Allah (God)
Said this or that, without Allah ( God) actually saying anything.

Where as if a person reads the bible,they will find God doing the talking, But where as in
Qu'ran Muhammad is doing all the talking.

Is there any wonder as to why Christ Jesus said what he said in the book of
Matthew 24:24-26---"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not"

If a person notice in verse 24, that there shall come false Christ's and false prophets, showing great signs and wonders, This meaning these false Christ's and false prophets presuming to do these things in( God's) Allah's name,

Notice in Verse 26, Seeing that Jesus is giving where these false Christ's and false prophets can be located at, In the desert, and Muhammad is such a false prophet that's located in the desert.

Muhammad say he is messenger in Quran but no where does Allah ( God) say this. To verify what Muhammad will say in the Quran.

Notice everything Is Muhammad saying, But nothing Allah ( God) saying, only Muhammad say this or that in the Quran

3:144]
Muhammad is no more than messenger. Messengers have passed on before him. If he dies or gets killed, will you turn on your heels? He who turns on his heels will not harm Allah in any way. And Allah will reward the appreciative.
[33:40]

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men; but he is the Messengerof Allah, and the seal of the prophets. Allah is Cognizant of everything.
[48:29]

Muhammad is the Messenger ofAllah. Those with him are stern against the disbelievers, yet compassionate amongst themselves. You see them kneeling, prostrating, seeking blessings from Allah and approval. Their marks are on their faces from the effects of prostration. Such is their description in the Torah, and their description in the Gospel: like a plant that sprouts, becomes strong, grows thick, and rests on its stem, impressing the farmers. Through them He enrages the disbelievers. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good deeds forgiveness and a great reward.

So the question is, With all of this, the question to be answered is,
Is Muhammad really who he claims to be?

Without any verification from
Allah ( God) in all the Quran, that Muhammad is who he claims to be?

I believe Muhammad was a true prophet, but was actually a woman. Her real name was Mohamadanna, and she was a lesbian.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
The question is, is Muhammad a true or false Prophet.

Your question makes no sense.
proph·et
/ˈpräfət/
noun
1.
a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.​

A prophet is someone who is regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God. Therefore, Muhammad is a prophet.

Perhaps you meant to ask if his teachings are true or false.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
To the OP

“Muhammad say in Qu'ran 5:47--"So let the people of the Gospel rule according to what Allah revealed in it. Those who do not rule according to what Allah revealed are the sinners.“

Muhammad didn’t say anything in the Qur’an God did. Also the above verse is in reference of the people of scripture with respect to laws that they are to judge themselves by. This is why in the early Muslim empires the people of scripture was given autonomy to govern themselves based on their scripture. Since Muslims believe in the Torah and the Gospels it was therefore permissible that Jewish and Christian communities govern themselves by their own laws.

Next time read more before you make that ridiculous claim.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
The question is, People will have to judge for themselves, is Muhammad a true or false Prophet.

Muhammad say in Qu'ran 5:47--"So let the people of the Gospel rule according to what Allah revealed in it. Those who do not rule according to what Allah revealed are the sinners.

The Gospels that Muhammad, being in reference to is, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John these being the 4 Gospels of the New Testament, Bible.

It seems Muhammad, He, himself, don't even follow his own word, Muhammad tells others to follow what Allah ( God) revealed in the Gospels, But yet Muhammad, He, himself don't even follow what Allah ( God) has revealed in the Gospel's. So how is this to work.

Seeing Muhammad is the prophet of Islam and seeing that Islam don't even follow what is revealed in the Gospels, wouldn't that make all Islam sinners ?

It seems Muhammad is always found in putting words in the mouth of Allah ( God) That Allah
( God) never spoken.

There's nothing wrong with Allah ( God) it's the messenger ( Muhammad) that's wrong, giving the wrong message.

Seeing Muhammad takes Deuteronomy 18:18--
--"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him"

To be in reference to himself, maybe Muhammad should read the rest of the
verses 19-22.
If a person reads Verses 19-22, they will find, if that prophet, that's spoken about in
Verse 18, speaks a word that Allah ( God) did not speak. That Prophet is only presuming to speak a word for (God) Allah.

Verse 19--"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him"

Seeing Muhammad, he, himself, speaks in the name of Allah ( God) but Muhammad himself do not follow the words of Allah ( God) himself.

Verse 20--"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die"

If a person had notice that the whole
chapter 18 of Deuteronomy, it is God that's doing all the talking.
Where as in the Quran, it's Muhammad that does all the talking, saying, Allah say this or Allah say that, but nothing that Allah actually will say himself.

Notice, God saying ( But the prophet, which shall (presume) to speak a word in my name.

So seeing Muhammad claims himself to be that prophet and God saying that prophet presums to speak in his name.
Meaning, That whatever that prophet will say in the name of God ( Allah) that prophet is only presuming God ( Allah) is saying that, without Allah ( God) actually saying anything to verify what Muhammad is saying.

So what it comes down to, is that Muhammad is only presuming Allah ( God) saying this or that. Without any verification that Allah ( God) did say this or that.

So what this means is, Allah ( God) never commanded Muhammad to speak in his name. It's only Muhammad presuming that Allah (God)
Said this or that, without Allah ( God) actually saying anything.

Where as if a person reads the bible,they will find God doing the talking, But where as in
Qu'ran Muhammad is doing all the talking.

Is there any wonder as to why Christ Jesus said what he said in the book of
Matthew 24:24-26---"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not"

If a person notice in verse 24, that there shall come false Christ's and false prophets, showing great signs and wonders, This meaning these false Christ's and false prophets presuming to do these things in( God's) Allah's name,

Notice in Verse 26, Seeing that Jesus is giving where these false Christ's and false prophets can be located at, In the desert, and Muhammad is such a false prophet that's located in the desert.

Muhammad say he is messenger in Quran but no where does Allah ( God) say this. To verify what Muhammad will say in the Quran.

Notice everything Is Muhammad saying, But nothing Allah ( God) saying, only Muhammad say this or that in the Quran

3:144]
Muhammad is no more than messenger. Messengers have passed on before him. If he dies or gets killed, will you turn on your heels? He who turns on his heels will not harm Allah in any way. And Allah will reward the appreciative.
[33:40]

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men; but he is the Messengerof Allah, and the seal of the prophets. Allah is Cognizant of everything.
[48:29]

Muhammad is the Messenger ofAllah. Those with him are stern against the disbelievers, yet compassionate amongst themselves. You see them kneeling, prostrating, seeking blessings from Allah and approval. Their marks are on their faces from the effects of prostration. Such is their description in the Torah, and their description in the Gospel: like a plant that sprouts, becomes strong, grows thick, and rests on its stem, impressing the farmers. Through them He enrages the disbelievers. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good deeds forgiveness and a great reward.

So the question is, With all of this, the question to be answered is,
Is Muhammad really who he claims to be?

Without any verification from
Allah ( God) in all the Quran, that Muhammad is who he claims to be?



Let me explain to you the interpretation of this verse
The gospel of the Word of God actually descended on the prophet Jesus
We believe in Him, I mean the gospel which came down without original increase and modification

The original gospel tells the prophecy of the Prophet Muhammad in the gospels which have been summed up and found in very ancient versions as well as the bible

It is the provisions of faith in the gospel faith in Muhammadiyah prophecy
The Lost Gospel of Barnabas 2000 years ago

1500-year-old Bible found, Jesus (PBUH) foresees Prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) arrival - The Siasat Daily

google
Lost Gospel of Barnabas 2000 years ago muhamed prophet


muhamed in the bible
Prophet Muhammad in the Bible by Dr Naik
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:


Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."

In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.

GOD bless you
 

Audie

Veteran Member
False dichotomy. I don't believe Muhammed was a "true" prophet, but I don't believe the only alternative is that he were what's generalky understood as a "false" one, either. I believe Muhammad sincerely believed what he said, even though I don't believe what he said was true.

So, howsabout Joseph Smith?

Similarly, an awful lot of words for someone who
cant tell if he is making it up or not.

Maybe the dichotomy is between the cynical
fakes, and those with severe mental illness.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
To the OP

“Muhammad say in Qu'ran 5:47--"So let the people of the Gospel rule according to what Allah revealed in it. Those who do not rule according to what Allah revealed are the sinners.“

Muhammad didn’t say anything in the Qur’an God did. Also the above verse is in reference of the people of scripture with respect to laws that they are to judge themselves by. This is why in the early Muslim empires the people of scripture was given autonomy to govern themselves based on their scripture. Since Muslims believe in the Torah and the Gospels it was therefore permissible that Jewish and Christian communities govern themselves by their own laws.

Next time read more before you make that ridiculous claim.

Seeing I produce the things out of the Qu'ran, to show Muhammad. What did you bring outside of you just saying things.

So who's making ridiculous claims.

Muhammad say in Quran 5:47--"So let the people of the Gospel rule according to what Allah revealed in it. Those who do not rule according to what Allah revealed are the sinners"
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Let me explain to you the interpretation of this verse
The gospel of the Word of God actually descended on the prophet Jesus
We believe in Him, I mean the gospel which came down without original increase and modification

The original gospel tells the prophecy of the Prophet Muhammad in the gospels which have been summed up and found in very ancient versions as well as the bible

It is the provisions of faith in the gospel faith in Muhammadiyah prophecy
The Lost Gospel of Barnabas 2000 years ago

1500-year-old Bible found, Jesus (PBUH) foresees Prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) arrival - The Siasat Daily

google
Lost Gospel of Barnabas 2000 years ago muhamed prophet


muhamed in the bible
Prophet Muhammad in the Bible by Dr Naik
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:


Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."

In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.

GOD bless you

With everything that you given, only proves the more. Only Muhammad say.
But yet Muhammad not do as he say. But want others to do, but Muhammad not do as he say.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Prophet Muhammad in the Bible by Dr Naik
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."

In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad


There are stretches and there are stretches. The following completely shows how nonsensical your beliefs are:

Answering Muslims: Muhammad in Song of Solomon 5:16?
This is what happens when Muslim apologists try to force Muhammad into the Bible. They go to a passage in which Solomon's bride is praising her husband's body, and they expect us to believe that she's actually having adulterous thoughts about a future prophet. Shabir Ally and Zakir Naik take a perfectly normal Hebrew word and try to transform it into a prophecy of Muhammad, but in doing so they end up claiming that Muhammad was Ezekiel's wife and that God promises to desecrate him!

Read the entire article for some more laughs.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
There are stretches and there are stretches. The following completely shows how nonsensical your beliefs are:

Answering Muslims: Muhammad in Song of Solomon 5:16?
This is what happens when Muslim apologists try to force Muhammad into the Bible. They go to a passage in which Solomon's bride is praising her husband's body, and they expect us to believe that she's actually having adulterous thoughts about a future prophet. Shabir Ally and Zakir Naik take a perfectly normal Hebrew word and try to transform it into a prophecy of Muhammad, but in doing so they end up claiming that Muhammad was Ezekiel's wife and that God promises to desecrate him!

Read the entire article for some more laughs.

I read it but there is misrepresentation and coverage of the truth
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Seeing I produce the things out of the Qu'ran, to show Muhammad. What did you bring outside of you just saying things.

So who's making ridiculous claims.

Muhammad say in Quran 5:47--"So let the people of the Gospel rule according to what Allah revealed in it. Those who do not rule according to what Allah revealed are the sinners"

No. I’m just commenting on your misunderstanding of the above verse.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Prophet is a Greek word which means "fore-teller" since it comes from the verb pro-fimì προ- φημί which means fore-tell, predict.

Can a good Samaritan who knows Arabic tell me what word is used in the Holy Qur'an?
thanks

if it doesn't mean fore-teller...stop using the word prophet!
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
Prophet is a Greek word which means "fore-teller" since it comes from the verb pro-fimì which means fore-tell, predict.

Can a good Samaritan who knows Arabic tell me what word is used in the Holy Qur'an?
thanks

if it doesn't mean fore-teller...stop using the word prophet!

النبي
arabi word call
nabi = prophet

رسول الله
رسول
rasol = messenger
and messenger of god
 
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