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i think that if you lie, it may take a day, a week, a year, or even 10 years, but you will be found outNatas said:Is it sometimes ok, e.g. to protect an innocent, such as a child? I guess another way to state it is do you feel that God ever justifies lying or kidnapping for any reason?
Nope.Natas said:Is it sometimes ok, e.g. to protect an innocent, such as a child? I guess another way to state it is do you feel that God ever justifies lying or kidnapping for any reason?
Ok, I understand that you personally feel it's ok when it's a life or death situation, but is lying justified by scripture?Melody said:Yes, I do. If my lie would mean the difference between life and death for someone, I would lie.
Do I think it's a sin God won't forgive? Not my God who knows the motivation of my heart and knows why I lied..
The passage you're refering to here makes no mention that I can see of God saving Rahab. Rather it is the pact she makes with the two spies that saves her.Melody said:As someone said in another thread, the Bible does show examples:
In Joshua 2, Rahab lies to the king's men to protect Joshua's spies. God saves her when the rest of the town is destroyed. If lying were unforgiveable, would He not have let her be killed along with the rest even though her lie helped His cause?
If you are refering to Genesis 20, Abimelech took Sarah from Abraham AFTER he declared her to be his sister It makes no mention of lying being ok in this story.Melody said:Abraham lied when asked if Sarah was his wife in order to protect her from being forcible taken away and yet he was a "friend of God"..
Again, I understand that you personally feel it's ok when it's a life or death situation, but is lying justified by scripture? Is kidnapping for any reason?Melody said:If I am in the same position where my lie saves a life, I believe God will be merciful and forgive me.
Agreed!Apotheosis said:I guess it depends on the circumstances, nowadays there really isnt any excuse for kidnapping anyone,
While one may/may not agree with your assertion here, to your knowledge, is this supported anywhere in the bible?Apotheosis said:but lying to save yourself or others is certainly better than dying.