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Is Love a prerequisite for Understanding

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,
 

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,

Yes!

love ---> understanding ---> peace
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?


Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,

Yes, sort of. Hermeneutics in humanities(not religion and literature, but social work) requires that you can hold another human as different and still regard that human as a human.
To meet your fellow human as fellow and not as the other as alien.
So yes, some form of platonic love in some sense is required.

And no, hate properly won't work, because it can make you blind.

Regards
Mikkel
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,
Certainly curiosity is a prerequisite. But I don't think love is, unless you maintain that curiosity results from a kind of love: love of the object of curiosity, perhaps, or love of discovery.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
What do you mean by "love?"

It is a word that works far too hard in the English language and means many, many things. In this context, what do you mean by it?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I don't think so. But after understanding there will be no hate. There may be no love as well.
Go figure. :)
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,

Some people can. A lot of the rest of us haven't experienced love (or call it that) and still cultivate love in the form of compassion and empathy. Personally, I haven't grown up in that type of love-environment. The foundation of compassion and empathy was never love. I'm not sure why there needs to be love to form a relationship. Everyone has different criteria in how they connect but regardless, it yields similar results despite it.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,
Maybe! I think to understand something requires that you are changed by it. When I learn something new I am remade a little bit by it.

Imagine that its all about you: You are the mystery, and other people are clues about you. As you read the mystery that is you your picture of the entire story should change little by little as if it were a puzzle being solved. You don't know what you will be. Understanding others changes you.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
I think it takes a certain kind of love, but for which English has no word.

When I stopped being a National Socialist and opened myself to other understandings, I certainly believe a kind of love went with that.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,
My answer to #1 is yes. To truly understand someone you need to become one with that person. That's what love does.

Hatred does not lead directly to becoming one. But hating someone creates a powerful bond with that person that eventually leads to love.

A prayer I know has this line said to God "please don't be indifferent to me". Because the opposite of love and hate is indifference.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,
a meeting of the minds, friendliness must occur, so yes. otherwise chaos, darkness exists between self and other as self. beauty or the beast. love comes like destruction. love is a stranger in an open car; so says annie.


i see said the blind man. send me an angel. naassene psalm



 
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,

They tend to work together. Understanding leads to closeness, closeness leads to understanding. The more you understand something the closer you feel towards it. Hatreds leads to seperation. Separation leads to hatred. Love is closeness, hatred is separation.

How can you understand another's POV if you keep yourself separate from them?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,
I suspect it's the other way around: that there can be no love without a willingness and desire to 'understand' the beloved.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
How can you understand another's POV if you keep yourself separate from them?

Perhaps this was intended as a rhetorical question. If not: At it's simplest, I think that hatred may be inspiring even if it is destructive. It may inspire understanding the weaknesses and flaws; but as mentioned by others in this thread... that is shallow, and arguably not understanding at all.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I suspect it's the other way around: that there can be no love without a willingness and desire to 'understand' the beloved.
Yes, I thought of this too, but I'm still conflicted.

The desire and willingness that you describe above? Isn't that a form of love ( compassion & empathy ).
 

Jedster

Well-Known Member
Is Love a prerequisite for understanding?

Maybe it's a silly question? But I wonder, can someone really understand another person's point of view without cultivating love in the form of compassion and empathy?

Conversely, can hatred lead to understanding?

Thank you,

Regarding hatred you may find this useful

""Those who vehemently oppose god and hate him also reach him because their hatred itself makes them permeated with god." (google the sentence to get the url)
From
The Experience of Hinduism: Essays on Religion in Maharashtra
 
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