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So you are going to believe what Christianity has taught for centuries even if it is not true?It has nothing to do with what we want but everything to do with what the faith has taught for centuries.
The Baha'is have no plan to convert anyone because we firmly believe that everyone has to choose what to believe using their own free will. We have been charged with investigating the truth for ourselves and making our own decision and we are all responsible for what we believe. We are never supposed ti believe something just because someone else believes it or disbelieve it because not many people believe it. All of us are accountable to God for what we believed on Judgment Day.If we went along with you, we wouldn't be Christians. But that's your plan, right?
Baha'is have no ambitions except to do what we have been charged to do. Right now most Baha'is are busy building and sustaining their own communities. We are also supposed to carry the message of Baha'u'llah just as the disciples of Jesus did in the early days, but we are in no way responsible for what people decide after they hear the message. "For the faith of no man can be conditioned by any one except himself.”And of course you care about what Christians believed because you wish to convert us, especially as a small religion with universal ambition.
With all due respect there is no reason to believe that Jesus spoke any of those words since in Revelations.In the last chapter of Revelation, Jesus speaks the words, "I am coming quickly" three different times (Rev, 2:21:7, 12, 20).
I definitely do not agree with thisI was not referring to what happens after l leave my body. I was only referring to what is in the Bible.
Jesus' life and God's Plan are in the Bible.
There is no reason "to think there is no more work to do as well"There is no reason to think there was any more work for Jesus to do
I never said that God was limited to any Scripture, let alone the Bible. That is a Christian beliefI definitely do not agree with this
God is far beyond any Scripture
I just go by what is in the Bible as there is no other way to know what Jesus said.There is no reason "to think there is no more work to do as well"
Why you claim to know "about Jesus and God their Plans or lack thereof"?
I admit I have no clue about either, both ways
UntrueI just go by what is in the Bible as there is no other way to know what Jesus said.
Again, why state this as a claim?There is no reason to believe there was any more work for Jesus to do
That is no argument that makes sense to me, as if you believe that Masters dictate everything, and only in the Bible, and that for Eternity evenbecause Jesus never said He had more work to do.
It is my belief, not my opinion.Untrue
Again, why state this as a claim?
It's obviously your opinion only; at least you should admit that, right?
That is no argument that makes sense to me, as if you believe that Masters dictate everything, and only in the Bible, and that for Eternity even
That was not the pointIt is my belief, not my opinion.
I don't want to argue once I have stated my belief.
You have a completely different belief system.
I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe.
What's the point in arguing? I have no need to prove anything.
I have heard from other Christians that Jesus is coming between 2030 and 2033. In this time period the 2000 years after the resurrection, which took place between 30 and 33 AD, will be full. From the first sin of Adam to the resurrection of Jesus is 4000 years, and from the resurrection to 2030-2033 is 6000 years. And the eternal Sabbath will take place.
Is this theory Biblical?
If this is true, then the beast which is the revived kingdom should appear any moment.
I was not stating it as a fact, but apparently that is how it sounded to you, so I fixed it:That was not the point
Don't state it as a fact was the point
Thereby imposing it on me and others
You did not use the words 'I state as a fact' but your words implied itI was not stating it as a fact, but apparently that is how it sounded to you, so I fixed it:
I just go by what is in the Bible since I believe that there is no other way to know what Jesus said.
There is no reason for me to believe there was any more work for Jesus to do because Jesus never said He had more work to do in the Bible.
With all due respect there is no reason to believe that Jesus spoke any of those words since in Revelations.
There is also no reason to believe that Revelations was about Jesus.
It is thus a faith-based belief that was handed down through the generations and believed unquestionably.
"There is a lot of debate on this, but there are a few things that we can say about the author of Revelation.
The author claims he is writing from the island of Patmos, and calls himself John, but John was a very common name in this time period so that doesn’t tell us much. The two Johns that spring to mind is John the disciple of Jesus
(or John the son of Zebedee) and John the Elder
(or John the Presbyter). The latter is a rather obscure figure in early Christianity and we really don’t know much about him.
We can also say pretty conclusively that whoever this John was, he was not also the author the Gospel of John. The Gospel of John is written in rather simple, but elegant Greek by someone who was obviously a native speaker. The Book of Revelation, in contrast, is poorly written in Greek with numerous grammatical mistakes, most likely by someone who was not a native Greek speaker, although scholars do believe it was by someone who spoke one of the Semitic languages of the area. The Gospel of John and Revelation also disagree on several theological points, which some early church fathers argued was a reason to exclude it from the cannon.
Of course, most scholars do not think the Gospel of John was written by the disciple of Jesus, and since we know his native language was Aramaic and not Greek, and he was almost certainly illiterate, but perhaps he learned to speak and write Greek and that’s why Revelation is so poorly written?
Perhaps. But aside from the pragmatic unlikeliness of this happening (there weren’t a lot of schools in those days where a peasant from Galilee could go to learn to write Greek), there is some evidence in the book itself which suggests this is not the case.
Right in the beginning of the book, in Chapter 4, the author is taken up to heaven where he sees the throne of God. Around the throne of God are twenty-four lesser thrones, upon wihich sit twenty-four elders who forever worship God, and most scholars believe these represent the twelve patriarchs of Israel and the twelve disciples.
But if this interpretation is correct, the person “seeing” the twenty-four elders could not be one of them, which John the Apostle obviously was.
So, aside from the fact that the Apostle John almost certainly could not write in his native Aramaic, let alone Greek, there is evidence in the book itself that suggests the author of Revelation, at least, did not view himself as the Apostle John.
Then was the author the enigmatic John the Elder? Perhaps. But John was a very common name in the ancient Jewish world — in the top five most common names of the period — so most likely it was a completely different John altogether, but through this coincidence the early Church believed the book was written by one of the famous “Johns” and therefore was made a part of the cannon.
The author of Revelation almost certainly wasn’t John the Apostle or the same writer as the Gospel of John. All we really can say about him was that his name was John and he lived on the island of Patmos."
Who wrote the Book of Revelation in the Bible? - Quora
Unless they want to win a Darwin Award.What I find sad about this, is that it can actually harm people. Some folks sell all their possessions, quit their jobs, insult family members, refuse to consider any alternatives, and drag loved ones, including their own children along into their self created chaos. RF was witness to a young man insisting on it several years back. When it didn't happen, despite all his dire warnings, I believe he quit posting. Who knows what happened to him?
There are also often dire consequences to people (depression, even suicide) when it doesn't happen.
At the very least people shouldn't do anything dire until it does happen, which it won't.
I have heard from other Christians that Jesus is coming between 2030 and 2033. In this time period the 2000 years after the resurrection, which took place between 30 and 33 AD, will be full. From the first sin of Adam to the resurrection of Jesus is 4000 years, and from the resurrection to 2030-2033 is 6000 years. And the eternal Sabbath will take place.
Is this theory Biblical?
If this is true, then the beast which is the revived kingdom should appear any moment.
I have heard from other Christians that Jesus is coming between 2030 and 2033. In this time period the 2000 years after the resurrection, which took place between 30 and 33 AD, will be full. From the first sin of Adam to the resurrection of Jesus is 4000 years, and from the resurrection to 2030-2033 is 6000 years. And the eternal Sabbath will take place.
Is this theory Biblical?
If this is true, then the beast which is the revived kingdom should appear any moment.
I have heard from other Christians that Jesus is coming between 2030 and 2033. In this time period the 2000 years after the resurrection, which took place between 30 and 33 AD, will be full. From the first sin of Adam to the resurrection of Jesus is 4000 years, and from the resurrection to 2030-2033 is 6000 years. And the eternal Sabbath will take place.
Is this theory Biblical?
If this is true, then the beast which is the revived kingdom should appear any moment.
How do you know they haven't read the Bible?
Should you always take the Bible literally? In one passage in the New Testament, it says that Jesus has a name that nobody knows except Himself(Revelation 19:12); does that mean that the Father does not know the name?If they had read the bible, they would have seen Mark 13:32 where it clearly says that nobody knows the day or the hour. Actually, the entire chapter is very enlightening.