1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Is Jealousy a Sign of Love?

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Sunstone, Nov 30, 2005.

  1. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2004
    Messages:
    76,090
    Ratings:
    +37,747
    Religion:
    Non-Theistic Mysticism
    I've always thought that jealousy was more a sign of possessiveness than of love. But someone once "corrected" me on that: She said that any true love included an element of jealousy. I never bought her "correction" and still don't believe jealousy indicates love more than it does possessiveness. But what do you think? Is jealousy a sign of true love? Or is it more a sign of possessiveness? Or something else altogether?
     
  2. michel

    michel Administrator Emeritus
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2004
    Messages:
    28,667
    Ratings:
    +2,655
    I see Jealousy as more of a case of insecurity; perhaps possessiveness sometimes. But true Love ?; not in my book.
     
  3. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2005
    Messages:
    16,396
    Ratings:
    +3,760
    Religion:
    Anglican...heretic
    I would say possessiveness. with more than a touch of disregard for the feelings of the other person.

    Terry_______________________
    Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
     
  4. turk179

    turk179 I smell something....

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,721
    Ratings:
    +396
    Religion:
    Agnostic
    I agree with michel. To me jealousy is caused more by insecurities and self doubt. Sometimes this can lead to possessiveness because that person is afraid of loosing their significant other due to their insecurities. I can't possibly see this as an indication of ones love for another person.
     
  5. jeffrey

    jeffrey †ßig Dog†

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2005
    Messages:
    5,366
    Ratings:
    +1,008
    You and Orion beat me to it! I know I've been jealous over things in the past. Stupid things. But at times, I'm insecure. If the person your with gives you confidence, the jealousy fades away.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2004
    Messages:
    76,090
    Ratings:
    +37,747
    Religion:
    Non-Theistic Mysticism
    Have you ever known someone to confuse their strong feelings of jealousy with love? I believe I've seen that happen several times to different people. And in nearly every case, there was no talking the deluded person out of their conviction that they truly loved someone. Has anyone else noticed this sort of thing?
     
  7. michel

    michel Administrator Emeritus
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2004
    Messages:
    28,667
    Ratings:
    +2,655
    Thats lovely, I had never thought of that............:)
     
  8. turk179

    turk179 I smell something....

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,721
    Ratings:
    +396
    Religion:
    Agnostic
    Sounds like the start of an abusive relationship.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. nutshell

    nutshell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2005
    Messages:
    7,136
    Ratings:
    +669
    Ditto to all of the above. Jealousy has no place in true love.
     
  10. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2004
    Messages:
    76,090
    Ratings:
    +37,747
    Religion:
    Non-Theistic Mysticism
    BINGO!
     
  11. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2004
    Messages:
    76,090
    Ratings:
    +37,747
    Religion:
    Non-Theistic Mysticism
    Can jealousy be perfectly eliminated, or is it something that there will always be a bit of, and the best we can do is to manage it well?
     
  12. michel

    michel Administrator Emeritus
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2004
    Messages:
    28,667
    Ratings:
    +2,655
    Well, JGallandt's post#5

    Another question; could it be a form of control, as well ?
     
  13. maggie2

    maggie2 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2004
    Messages:
    975
    Ratings:
    +228
    I agree with jealousy is about insecurity and possessiveness.
     
  14. turk179

    turk179 I smell something....

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,721
    Ratings:
    +396
    Religion:
    Agnostic
    Absolutely. Unfortunately in another lifetime I have used jealousy as a form of control. At the time I did not think of it that way but in the end my jealousy got me what I wanted. I look back at my reaction to the situation and I realize that I was very insecure about myself. Gee I feel like a bit of a looser now
    Now that I think about it. Jealousy can be a form of control and it can also be controlling to the person feeling the jealousy.
     
  15. Scuba Pete

    Scuba Pete Le plongeur avec attitude...

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2004
    Messages:
    16,472
    Ratings:
    +3,192
    Religion:
    Christian Taoist
    Jealousy comes from selfishness. You are focused on your possible loss and NOT on the person involved.
     
  16. groovydancer88

    groovydancer88 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2005
    Messages:
    262
    Ratings:
    +34
    Love = Trust (at least in my book)
    Jealousy = Mistrust
     
  17. Bangbang

    Bangbang Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2005
    Messages:
    891
    Ratings:
    +71
    1. Exodus 20:5
      You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
      Exodus 20:4-6 (in Context) Exodus 20 (Whole Chapter)
    2. Exodus 34:14
      Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
      Exodus 34:13-15 (in Context) Exodus 34 (Whole Chapter)
    3. Deuteronomy 4:24
      For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
      Deuteronomy 4:23-25 (in Context) Deuteronomy 4 (Whole Chapter)
    4. Deuteronomy 5:9
      You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
      Deuteronomy 5:8-10 (in Context) Deuteronomy 5 (Whole Chapter)
    5. Deuteronomy 6:15
      for the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.
      Deuteronomy 6:14-16 (in Context) Deuteronomy 6 (Whole Chapter)
    6. Joshua 24:19
      Joshua said to the people, "You are not able to serve the LORD. He is a holy God; he is a jealous God. He will not forgive your rebellion and your sins.
      Joshua 24:18-20 (in Context) Joshua 24 (Whole Chapter)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. jeffrey

    jeffrey †ßig Dog†

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2005
    Messages:
    5,366
    Ratings:
    +1,008
    I believe jealousy can lead to control. My wife has a friend back in England, who's boyfriend is so jealous that she is not permitted to drive a car, go on the pc unless he is there, reads all her email, tells her what to wear... the list goes on...
     
  19. turk179

    turk179 I smell something....

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,721
    Ratings:
    +396
    Religion:
    Agnostic
    I feel sorry for your wife's friend. To have to go through ones life like you are in a federal prison is not my idea of a loving relationship.
     
  20. Darkdale

    Darkdale World Leader Pretend

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Messages:
    3,216
    Ratings:
    +413
    I'd say it is a sign of possessiveness and insecurity.
     
Loading...