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Is it wrong to tell the truth about a lie?

Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Aliens, Oct 15, 2019.

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  1. Aliens

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    When the truth is a lie and the truth tells that lie , is it wrong to tell the truth in Gods house?
     
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    Where is God's house?
     
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    Example?
     
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    In rare circumstances, I think it is acceptable to perpetuate a lie. It is a technique that is sometimes used with extreme dementia and Alzheimer patients who are in institutional care.
     
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    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    Pass the pipe. (same effect)
     
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  6. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    To assert that the truth is a lie is a meaningless assertion. It makes no sense.
     
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    How would God handle a paradox?

    "I lie each and every time , and that's the truth".
     
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    If your truly lying, or lying about the truth you need to stop.
     
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    The liar's paradox helps straighten this one out.
     
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    Everybody lies. There is a difference between lying and false witness. It is one of the seven deadly sins and includes swearing falsely by the name of God. There is coming a time when we won't have to lie anymore.
     
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    What ?
     
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    Truth is not always an absolute.
    Something may be true for a certain thing but not over all. Is that then a lie?

    Keep digging further to something 'more true'.. can we ever get to the centre? to pure Truth? would pure Truth also be pure Lies?
     
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    We're not talking about Alzheimer's patients though. We're talking about religions lying to their followers and telling them to go kill in the name of their faith. Or traditions that sentence people to a sort of hell on Earth.

    No, it is not right to perpetuate lies.

    Jihad will not earn ANYONE a place in paradise, you cannot earn rewards by hurting others (bad karma). Sorry. And the Pope cannot be infallible, he is a figure elected by other humans not ordained by God. And as long as we are talking karma, everyone participating in a caste system is either suffering now, or accruing bad karma by perpetuating a system that oppresses others. Kinda just leaves a few religions there.
     
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    If the subject is: "religions lying to their followers and telling them to go kill in the name of their faith. Or traditions that sentence people to a sort of hell on Earth."

    then:

    You are 100% correct.

    Here is how I understood the OP.

    The OP is expecting the reader to know the equivalence made by some theists that God is Truth. ( For those not familiar, It's similar to the idea that God is Love, but, from a different perspective and with a different implication. ) Then, I think, the OP is expecting the reader to use that equivalence to understand the question as shown below.

    "When the truth is a lie and the truth tells that lie , is it wrong to tell the truth in Gods house?"

    Translation:

    "When God is a lie and God tells that lie, is it wrong to tell the truth in Gods House?"

    More than anything, it's a silly play on words that's intended to point out how silly it is to believe that God is truth and to preach that truth in a Church, because, (according to some atheists), it's a lie. So, please understand, I was not taking the question as seriously as you are.
     
  16. j1i

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    I am against lying to people and using God as a tool

    It is possible for a person to commit adultery
    Then convince the girl that what she did enter the circle of humen acceptance and that God is merciful and will not punish us even if we continue? !!

    I mean against deceiving ourselves because this will prompt an entire generation to practice wrong habits

    Lying can not be a medication although temporarily analgesic, has complications

    I apologize I did not understand the question well and wanted to participate
     
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