Is it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin?

[Storm]

The only thing that I can say is that God made sex to be between a man and a woman, inside of marriage, but other than that I cant think of anything.

Then why did He make sexual minorities?

 

[shortfade2]

Then why did He make sexual minorities?

I dont know.

 

[Storm]

I dont know.

Could it be that He doesn't really have a problem with us? That that just came from the men who wrote the books, just like the bans on shellfish and blended fabrics?

 

[Enlighten]

I dont know.

Ok from a Christian to a Christian, we all don't have to agree,

Why not start again, post a "Hi I'm new thread" then you may find a much better start to the site?

 

[keithnurse]

The only thing that I can say is that God made sex to be between a man and a woman, inside of marriage, but other than that I cant think of anything.

PS. can somebody PM me how to set an avatar?

"God made sex to be between a man and a woman" Yet another unsupported assertion. Obviously we need women to be having sex with men to make more human beings but that doesn't mean homosexuality is wrong. Some people are attracted to people of the same gender. Your assertion that homosexuality is wrong is completely without foundation.

 

[shortfade2]

I was intending it to sound like I dont really know anymore.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

I was not saying that I want to cast other people in hell. I want to see as many people inside of heaven's gates as possibe.

I suppose that you could become gay, if raised in a gay home, or in differant environments than a typical home, but other than that my scource is pretty much testosterone (being a teenage boy)

Boy, you're making some huge assumptions that are very, very wrong. There is no such thing as a gay home, gay couples raise children and those children tend to be free to decide who they want to be, they are not forced or conditioned to be gay simply by having gay parents. There is no such thing as a typical home. The Brady Bunch and Cleaver homes are myths that never existed in real life.

 

[Carico]

Boy, you're making some huge assumptions that are very, very wrong. There is no such thing as a gay home, gay couples raise children and those children tend to be free to decide who they want to be, they are not forced or conditioned to be gay simply by having gay parents. There is no such thing as a typical home. The Brady Bunch and Cleaver homes are myths that never existed in real life.

That means they have no discipline and are encouraged to act out on whatever desires rule them. They thus need no parents if they can do anything they want. So the "mother" and "father" might as well leave home and get an apartment since they have nothing to teach their children.

 

[gnomon]

That means they have no discipline and are encouraged to act out on whatever desires rule them. They thus need no parents if they can do anything they want. So the "mother" and "father" might as well leave home and get an apartment since they have nothing to teach their children.

Useless assumption.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Everyone is born in sin so none of us can help our lust, greed, envy, sloth, pride, gluttony and anger.

No they aren't. Everyone is born in innocence, it is through their life that they are exposed to sin and must then make choices. This self hatred and idiotic idea that humans are born bad is one of the many things that drove me from the Baptist church. Thank all the Gods I found the UUs.

 

[Carico]

Useless assumption.

Prove it. Or don't atheists think they have to back up their statements with facts?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

That means they have no discipline and are encouraged to act out on whatever desires rule them. They thus need no parents if they can do anything they want. So the "mother" and "father" might as well leave home and get an apartment since they have nothing to teach their children.

So, me saying they are free to make their own decisions means that there is no discipline in the house. Not forcing your children to believe exactly what you tell them to believe no matter what is not only bad parenting but abuse? You are one twisted individual. Glad you're not my parent.

 

[keithnurse]

That means they have no discipline and are encouraged to act out on whatever desires rule them. They thus need no parents if they can do anything they want. So the "mother" and "father" might as well leave home and get an apartment since they have nothing to teach their children.

Wrong again. Most gay people grew up in homes with a mother and father or a single or divorced mother or father and most receive discipline average parents give such as being told what time to go to bed, stealing and lying is wrong, do your homework, take out the garbage, etc. Children that are raised by gay parents are no more likely to be gay than those raised by heterosexual parents.

 

[Carico]

Wrong again. Most gay people grew up in homes with a mother and father or a single or divorced mother or father and most receive discipline average parents give such as being told what time to go to bed, stealing and lying is wrong, do your homework, take out the garbage, etc. Children that are raised by gay parents are no more likely to be gay than those raised by heterosexual parents.

What kind of discipline if homosexuals don't want a moral watchdog around? They're certainly not taught to contain their lust! Their children are modeled to act on whatever lust they want as long as they can find partners who like to act out as well.

 

[Storm]

Prove it. Or don't atheists think they have to back up their statements with facts?

You made the claim, it's on you to back it up.

 

[gnomon]

Prove it. Or don't atheists think they have to back up their statements with facts?

There's nothing to back up. You inserted, aka assumed, something Trey never said.

That was easy.

Now if you really want an intelligent debate respond to my post (#386) earlier in this thread about human sexual development. A non-response to that post will allow me to conclude the best you can do is throw out inane non-sequitors in a is not/is so level of retarded debate.

 

[Enlighten]

Prove it. Or don't atheists think they have to back up their statements with facts?

I have asked about..... 3 times now to respond to a question I asked yesterday, you are obviously avoiding it for a reason?

EDIT: Given that you tell me I'm an athiest, I will back up my claims, for another ten mins then bed time here but I will ask you each day..

 

[nonbeliever_92]

Prove it. Or don't atheists think they have to back up their statements with facts?

oh NE god, you don't have children do you?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

What kind of discipline if homosexuals don't want a moral watchdog around? They're certainly not taught to contain their lust! Their children are modeled to act on whatever lust they want as long as they can find partners who like to act out as well.

Your theory is based on the fact that homosexuality is only lust and that to allow a homosexual relationship to exist somehow promotes not only lust but all other amoral activities. Since the facts your theory are based on have no logical basis and stem completely from religions belief rather than scientific fact, its easy to see how wrong you are.

 

[keithnurse]

What kind of discipline if homosexuals don't want a moral watchdog around? They're certainly not taught to contain their lust! Their children are modeled to act on whatever lust they want as long as they can find partners who like to act out as well.

You are putting your ignorance on display for the entire world to see. What evidence is there that gay people have NO morals? or that they can't control lust. I don't go around just acting on any old impulse that comes to my mind. I choose what to do with my time and energy and it isn't all about sex.