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Is it time to finally ditch our smartphones?

Discussion in 'Consumer Affairs' started by Hermit Philosopher, Nov 26, 2020.

  1. Hermit Philosopher

    Hermit Philosopher Selflessly here for you

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    Algorithms control what we see.

    Our phones listen to us and, in case we’ve taken a small stand and stopped commenting or hitting the like-button, the most advanced algorithms now see us and interpret our facial expressions as we browse the net, in order to assess whether we like what we come across or not.

    And I wonder...
    Is it time to ditch these gadgets that monitor us so? Anyone else feeling that, when it comes to being supervised, we may have reached our limit of consent...?

    And could we function without smartphones again?

    Please share your ideas, feelings and potential solutions.


    Humbly
    Hermit
     
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  2. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Coming from the most surveilled country in the world (uk) sticking a piece of tape across the camera lens is nothing
     
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  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Removing my phone would require surgical removal from my hand.
     
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  4. Hermit Philosopher

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    No need to actively start trying to boycott them then...? in hope that they may fear sales-drops and um... change something...?

    How about taxing them for data-collection...?
     
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    I am not smart enough for smart phones and choose to ignore them.
     
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  6. Twilight Hue

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    I think its only going to get worse as technology exerts more and more control over people.

    Pretty soon the planet could be regarded as a guilded prison style world where everything is closely monitored and tracked, and private information wantonly funneled through electronic pipelines without a persons individual consent or choice with no say in the matter.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    I prefer to sue for infringement and claim royalties for using my private information for gain. Just like music and film industries do themselves when they go after people.
     
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  8. Hermit Philosopher

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    Good for you, my friend!
    It’s courageous to resist things that society claims is required for us to be able to go about our everyday lives ...errands and stuff.
     
  9. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    They really are not that smart, mine spells almost as badly as i do
     
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    Flip phones are good. I still will miss having a pocket computer. I wouldn't mind having the phone logic and controls separated from the computer.
     
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  11. ChristineM

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    My view. If i want the convenience of a phone, camera, internet on the move then i simply turn off notifications and make do with the targeted advertising. Other than it is sometimes a small inconvenience its not a problem. I dont bother with it, it doesnt influence me to by the mega whatever from some company ive never heard of any way.
     
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  12. Gargovic Malkav

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    This kind of talk always makes me think of "We want your soul" by Adam Freeland.

    I'm reluctant to embrace new gadgets because I'm usually content with what we've got.
    And all this plucking for information all the time makes me feel a bit annoyed and oppressed too. Not to mention what kind of effect this could have in the long run.
    This is one of the reasons why I don't use technological advancements as a standard to measure how well-off an individual or society is.

    Oh well, anything that happens, is meant to happen. Sometimes things have to get real bad first before people realize or remember which things are really good.
    I pray that things won't be made too hard for us.
     
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    I have dodged the problem, a bit, by continuing to use a generation 3 iPhone (now almost 10 years old), whose internet functionality is extremely clunky and limited. I have the locator function turned off. Almost all my internet use is via my laptop. Four discussion forums are the only social media I subscribe to: no Twatter, Faecebook etc.

    Possibly naively, I like to think this approach limits my IT footprint and deprives Big Brother of too much information about me. But I find the iPhone useful for text, checking mail and making sure I can keep my calendar up to date wherever I am, so I would not want to dump it.
     
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    It's time to 'ditch' the corrupt legislators that allow this kind of intrusive commercial spying.
     
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    I have a 'dumb phone'. Its a flip phone, and is poorly made. I'm assuming to be marketed to the elderly who just won't switch. I assume their appearance on the market is limited. When that's it, and all there is is smartphones, you may contact me by carrier pigeon.

    I don't want one. I don't want a computer in my pocket. I don't want to be that connected. I don't want to have to fight the allure of the distraction, or fail to fight it, and alienate my friends and family in the same manner they've done to me with those stinking devices.

    I don't have much say over the events that unfold in my life, but I do have control over the machines that I choose to use on a daily basis.

    High tech for me was when, after making pavlova for the first time, I broke down and bought an electric hand mixer. Thrilling!
     
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    Can't ditch what you don't have.
     
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    Has this as a facility or does it as a matter of course?
     
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    As long as I'm indifferent about it and I'm not doing anything illegal, it doesn't bother me until it needs to.
     
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    I'm similar, in having a flip-phone and which is enough for me at the moment, but my issues with smart phones are mostly that I will be paying for something that I will not use so much, and where I much prefer a laptop for internet use. I think I would just get too frustrated looking at such a small screen and coping with how things are presented on such.

    As to the intrusiveness, well I seem to manage my laptop without being too bothered by advertising, tracking, spamming, and such, mostly perhaps because I don't use social media, but also because I use enough software to control what they do, and I suspect such is available for smartphones too. But mainly I suppose it is down to what presence one has in cyber-space, and if one must be totally involved in such (social media being the obvious) then one might have to accept some level of intrusiveness.
     
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