Is it possible?

[Spirit of Light]

I just used the blind man / cliff as a example . Another example would be you and your buddy are going sky diving. Your at 15.000 ft and your both about to Jump . Your buddy then takes off his parachute and declares, I don't need this parachute, I believe that if I simply flap my arms I will be ok . No I know this is not going to work . But he ' believes ' that he will be ok . This simple story is made to show that inspite of his belief the truth was that gravity and the fall is going to kill him. It is true regardless of what we think and believe . Its objectively true that it will end badly for him. His belief no matter how strong wont save him . So either Jesus was just blowing smoke or his claims were true . We can't have it both ways . Or its Islam , or its Mormonism , or its The Jehovah's_Witnesses witnesses ,logically it can't be " oh what's true for you is true for you " or ' All religions are a piece of the big picture they all lead to the same path / end .

What if what Jesus said to the christians count for those who follow christianity
What Muhammad told his followers count for those who follow Islam and so on?

That the teaching that has been given gives the answer to that particular prophets teaching?
(and yes i do see Jesus as a prophet and not as Gods son)

 

[Aupmanyav]

His belief no matter how strong wont save him.

Is anyone going to be saved? Saved by whom, from what? We have only one life; and Christians, Muslims and Hindus, knowledgeable or ignorant, all will pass away.

 

[John1.12]

What if what Jesus said to the christians count for those who follow christianity
What Muhammad told his followers count for those who follow Islam and so on?

That the teaching that has been given gives the answer to that particular prophets teaching?
(and yes i do see Jesus as a prophet and not as Gods son)

Yes that would two completely different ' truths ' . Islam and Christianity are not compatible at all . Literally what Islam teaches about Jesus and salvation is the complete opposite . A Muslim dare not even think about their God having a ' Son ' , or that Jesus is God , came to earth as a baby ,lived among us and was eventually crucified . Islam completely rejects Christianity s central core claims .
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

When it says ' Lord ' in verse 9 this a reference to him as God . This is to be believed . That Jesus is Lord . Not a prophet . Yes he was a prophet also but thats not the same thing as claimed by Islam.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Yes that would two completely different ' truths ' . Islam and Christianity are not compatible at all . Literally what Islam teaches about Jesus and salvation is the complete opposite . A Muslim dare not even think about their God having a ' Son ' , or that Jesus is God , came to earth as a baby ,lived among us and was eventually crucified . Islam completely rejects Christianity s central core claims .
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

When it says ' Lord ' in verse 9 this a reference to him as God . This is to be believed . That Jesus is Lord . Not a prophet . Yes he was a prophet also but thats not the same thing as claimed by Islam.

Yes there is differences in the teaching between Christianity and Islam that does not (in my understanding) mean its wrong from any of them

 

[John1.12]

Yes there is differences in the teaching between Christianity and Islam that does not (in my understanding) mean its wrong from any of them

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Yes there is differences in the teaching between Christianity and Islam that does not (in my understanding) mean its wrong from any of them

It depends on what you mean ' its wrong ' . We have two different Jesus,s . Tnwo different Gods , two different plans of salvation ( Islam being a works based religion , good deeds out weighing, bad deeds ect ) Contradicting books . You couldn't have two more opposing worldviews if you tried . Literally one has to be false on its claims about Jesus and about salvation . Islam says Jesus is not God , he didn't die for the sins of the world , He was not crucified , he did not rise from the dead ect . This is the essential part of the bible/ Christianity. Only one can be the truth .

 

[Spirit of Light]

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It depends on what you mean ' its wrong ' . We have two different Jesus,s . Tnwo different Gods , two different plans of salvation ( Islam being a works based religion , good deeds out weighing, bad deeds ect ) Contradicting books . You couldn't have two more opposing worldviews if you tried . Literally one has to be false on its claims about Jesus and about salvation . Islam says Jesus is not God , he didn't die for the sins of the world , He was not crucified , he did not rise from the dead ect . This is the essential part of the bible/ Christianity. Only one can be the truth .

To be a "good" muslim it is a lot of work inward yes. And much about understanding our own faults in life, so we can correct our own being.

 

[savagewind]

Why would a homeless person cause damage to your person, more than any other person you might invite into your home? Give me evidence homeless people go about attacking people who provide them with a bed.
It is far more likely for a homeless person to be attacked on the street by a person who isn't homeless- than vice versa.

I worry about repair people too. It wasn't about homeless people. It was about strangers.

 

[savagewind]

I know Norway may not be the best country to compare with other countries (very little crime here) But honestly i do not fear for my life even if i let a homeless person sleep on the sofa for a few nights. Those i have had staying in my home, even asked very gently if it was ok to get some food and a coffee in the morning.

I do not fear for my life so much as I might fear being used.

 

[Muffled]

I respect your view of your savior

I believe it is more than a view, it is a living reality.

 

[Muffled]

I thought it was the radical message of the Gospels- I don't know how you get closer to Christianity than that.

I believe you are going by what you were taught by the church and not what Jesus said.

 

[Muffled]

I've seen lots of people who love people unconditionally, but as for loving God I'm not perfect; I don't even always believe in Him.

I believe that leaves you lots of room to grow in grace.

 

[robocop (actually)]

I believe that leaves you lots of room to grow in grace.

Great!

 

[passerby]

I believe you are going by what you were taught by the church and not what Jesus said.

Indeed- I believe they are inseparable.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

Recently a member of this forum said that it is possible we are actually not living this life, our brain is in a jar and we are living a simulation like matrix. I agree. It is possible.

Anything is possible if you think about it.

As if a holographic existence were not enough, please take a peek at this:
Is Time Linear, or Can the Future Influence the Past?
It's a perplexing concept worthy of intel scrutiny.