Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I completely agree.
So I wonder who the "Virgin" Mary was in "such close physical proximity that sperm and egg unite" with...
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That's a debate for another thread - stay on topic!
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I completely agree.
So I wonder who the "Virgin" Mary was in "such close physical proximity that sperm and egg unite" with...
People are so concerned about the mother's body and her rights to it (which in my opinion, she limited when she took part in voluntary actions that include the possibility of pregnancy which would then involve the rights of another person).
Why aren't these same people as concerned about a baby's body that is scalded, ripped apart, or stabbed - with NO anesthesia?
MY GOSH - where's the compassion and common sense???
No, they are talking about the legalities surrounding abortion.I mean, if you're talking about humanity being determined by the rights that the law imparts - let's kill anyone who medically can't drive. I mean, their rights are limited, right?
YOU are the one who decided to continue this particular tangent.(slap!)
That's a debate for another thread - stay on topic!
Criminalizing abortion does not decrease the number of abortions.Look at the bright side.. the criminalization of abortion does wonders for the prison and clothes hanger industries!
I am going to guess it is for the exact same reason right to lifers are no where to be found after the child is born...
Pre-birth - WE'RE BEHIND YOU100%!!
Pre-school - **** YOU! YOU"RE ON YOUR OWN!
I know a lot of non-Christians families who adopt and or are foster parents.Hmmm, I know a lot of Christian families who have adopted or are foster parents. A LOT.
You first.Besides that, quit diverting.
Seems to me they are taking responsibility for their actions.It boils down to people taking responsibility for their actions, or taking the easy way out by taking another person's life.
Look at that.And I am not, for the record, talking about truly necessary abortions - which do exist, though they are rare. I would never critisize a woman who needed an abortion to save her own life, or who aborted a baby with severe deformities that were incompatible with life (though I would hope that she could bring herself to deliver it naturally or at least choose some sort of humane abortion procedure so that the baby was spared the pain of being ripped apart). And though I don't agree with abortions because of rape, I wouldn't vote against that option because it's such a rarity.
Cloud the issue?So why cloud the issue?
Honestly, I don't know if I could have anything to do with an abortion at any stage of development. I'll support a woman's right to choose, but for myself the whole idea makes me profoundly uncomfortable. If I were a doctor or nurse I just don't think I could do it.
My Aunt Nancy, who was a midwife, performed full-term abortions in the most horrifying manner when she had to do it to save women's lives. But I think she was tougher than I am.
People are so concerned about the mother's body and her rights to it (which in my opinion, she limited when she took part in voluntary actions that include the possibility of pregnancy which would then involve the rights of another person).
Why aren't these same people as concerned about a baby's body that is scalded, ripped apart, or stabbed - with NO anesthesia?
MY GOSH - where's the compassion and common sense???
Yes, she uses several appeal to emotion lines in her posts.And besides that..the "scalded and stabbed and ripped apart" is quite dramatic..
Her appeal, is as transparent as your eagerness to try and slip in "key" debate terms, as to shout aloud, Mestemia knows debate terminology... Rather boring, your responses are.Yes, she uses several appeal to emotion lines in her posts.
I wonder why she feels her argument is to weak to stand without them.
I do not think they are, but apparently she does.
Otherwise, why all the dramatic appeal to emotion lines.?
I see your hypocrisy is working a bit of overtime.Her appeal, is as transparent as your eagerness to try and slip in "key" debate terms, as to shout aloud, Mestemia knows debate terminology... Rather boring, your responses are.
Whatever helps you sleep at night though...
Exactly. It's about people who believe they have the right to judge other people and make decisions for those people based on some imagined position of moral superiority.It boils down to people taking responsibility for their actions
Yes, but at the end of the prenancy - a rat is still a rat. Are you honestly saying you see no difference between a rat and a human? What about termites - they're alive? Is their life just as sacred as that of a human? What about fire ants? Why can we kill them but we can't go kill the neighbor's kid who just broke our windshield with his baseball?
I don't understand what all of the fuss is about. It's not like they're in short supply or hard to make.
It's about people who believe they have the right to judge other people and make decisions for those people based on some imagined position of moral superiority.
We all live with the consequences of our actions, including women who have abortions.
Abortion is not some kind of get-out-of-karma-free card. It's not something many women do lightly or joyfully.
And frankly, there are probably some times when abortion is the best thing in the circumstances.
I don't understand how anybody can claim the right to make such a difficult and important decision on somebody else's behalf. Where's the compassion and common sense?
We all make difficult decisions, decisions that others might not understand or sympathize with. Every single one of us. It's good that we don't always have self-appointed judges prepared to force us to "take responsibility for our actions."
True, and we are very overpopulated. However atleast with me, I'm not so much bothered about abortion itself, but at what stage during the pregnany that the child is terminated. For instance, if a Woman got an abortion after like 2 weeks of conception I'd have no problem with it. Finding the right, or rather, the most "ideal" limit to when a Woman should no longer be allowed to terminate the child is the hard part for me. I honeslty need to study the pregnancy process further but from I know of so far, 6 weeks seems to sound about right to me.