Is it discrimination to say no to robots?

[Howard Is]

Jack Daniels, pentobarbital and some psychedelic jazz fusion.

Because on my budget it won’t be a sexy cybernetic nurse, it will be a pet rock.

 

[epronovost]

What about to avoid the granting of aspects of personhood to robots?

We will cross that bridge once we get there. The ''easiest'' part would be to define what personhood entails and then see if robot can meet those prerequisits.

 

[Revoltingest]

And for your killer 'haggis' recipe book.

Mankind is unready to have such power unleashed.

 

[Howard Is]

We will cross that bridge once we get there. The ''easiest'' part would be to define what personhood entails and then see if robot can meet those prerequisits.

And I see no problem reaching a consensus on that.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

ut what if robots begin to acquire aspects of personhood?

That would change things completely.

 

[Revoltingest]

Jack Daniels, pentobarbital and some psychedelic jazz fusion.

I plan to merge with the infinite to this tune...

There will be chocolate & bacon.

 

[ChristineM]

The nurses/doctors earn it because of their skills with humans and their knowledge of how to help. I would not let a robot take care of my family members

My husband had prostate cancer, the oncologist suggest he pay extra to hire a robot to perform the op. Much less invasive with a far better outcome.

When the choice is a 60% to 80% chance of death within 10 years from the cancer spreading to the bones or a 0.1% chance of an early death from cancer he chose the 0.1%

I feel that you would too, despite your reservations.

Spoiler: Meet DaVinci, the future of surgery.

 

[Howard Is]

I plan to merge with the infinite to this tune...

There will be chocolate & bacon.

A bit Gothic for my tastes.

But Danny Elfman did write one great euthanasia anthem...

 

[Revoltingest]

A bit Gothic for my tastes.

But Danny Elfman did write one great euthanasia anthem...

I collect gothic engines & machine tools.
So the music suits me.

 

[Howard Is]

I collect gothic engines & machine tools.
So the music suits me.

I would love to check out your shed.

 

[Polymath257]

They are not and will never be humans

Well, not for quite a long time, I agree. For example, there is no good reason to give them human genetics.

But I do think they will be conscious to the point where they deserve basic rights at some point in the future.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would love to check out your shed.

It's not quite ready....some organizing to do.
I don't even know how to post pix I take on RF.
Gotta learn that.
Any, I found an on-line pic an engine I own.
It's one of the smaller ones (Ca 1865).

This is an engraving of my Colt steam engine (ca 1885)....

 

[Howard Is]

It's not quite ready....some organizing to do.
I don't even know how to post pix I take on RF.
Gotta learn that.
Any, I found an on-line pic an engine I own.
It's one of the smaller ones.

Wow. Now I really want to visit. I’ll bring bacon and Glenfiddich.

Beside ‘Post Reply’ is ‘Upload a File’. Click on that and choose ‘Photo Library’. It will take you to your device’s photo file. Select what you want and click ‘Done’.
When it loads, click ‘Full Image’

Voila.

 

[Revoltingest]

Wow. Now I really want to visit. I’ll bring bacon and Glenfiddich.

Beside ‘Post Reply’ is ‘Upload a File’. Click on that and choose ‘Photo Library’. It will take you to your device’s photo file. Select what you want and click ‘Done’.
When it loads, click ‘Full Image’

Voila.

I gotta establish a photo library some day.

 

[dybmh]

Would you say it is discrimination or racism to say no to Robots in the home or in the society?

I vote, no.

I often discriminate against my oven and call it all sorts of names when i overcook something.

That's hot. ( I'm kinda surprised no one made this joke yet... )

 

[Howard Is]

I gotta establish a photo library some day.

Isn’t that going to be a great day ! Everything we’ve always wanted !

You can also choose ‘Take a Photo’ if you are using a portable device like an iPad.

 

[epronovost]

And I see no problem reaching a consensus on that.

It's generaly accepted that personhood has 6 components: consciousness (as in capable of exploring the world), reasoning (as in thinking), self-motivating activity (as in having desires), self-concept (I know what I am) and self-awareness (I know what I'm doing). Though there are many grey zones. Very young infants for example don't really display a self-concept and self-awareness before they reach a about a year or a year and a half old then again I don't think you can oppress or discrimnate babies either amongst other thing because they don't really display all the characteristics of personhood for sure.

 

[Howard Is]

This is an engraving of my Colt steam engine (ca 1885)....

I have often thought I would like a steam engine driving a dynamo. Hybrid energy generator/battery charger.

 

[dybmh]

I collect gothic engines & machine tools.
So the music suits me.

So.... you're not The Batman?

 

[dybmh]

It's generaly accepted that personhood has 6 components: consciousness (as in capable of exploring the world), reasoning (as in thinking), self-motivating activity (as in having desires), self-concept (I know what I am) and self-awareness (I know what I'm doing). Though there are many grey zones. Very young infants for example don't really display a self-concept and self-awareness before they reach a about a year or a year and a half old then again I don't think you can oppress or discrimnate babies either amongst other thing because they don't really display all the characteristics of personhood for sure.

I think, ultimately, machines will never know how to have fun. And this will be the way to tell them apart.

ETA: Of course this means that boring,dull humans will get accidentally mistaken for robots... but... c'est la vie.