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Featured Is God pro-abortion?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Subduction Zone, Feb 22, 2021.

  1. Subduction Zone

    Subduction Zone Veteran Member

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    I quoted you. I pointed out our error quite a while back and you kept repeating it.
     
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    How is that a valid source?

    But it does support the claim that if she was pregnant she would lose the fetus:


    "Thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot - What is meant by these expressions cannot be easily ascertained. ירך לנפל lanpel yarech signifies literally thy thigh to fall. As the thigh, feet, etc., were used among the Hebrews delicately to express the parts which nature conceals, (see Genesis 46:26;), the expression here is probably to be understood in this sense; and the falling down of the thigh here must mean something similar to the prolapsus uteri, or falling down of the womb, which might be a natural effect of the preternatural distension of the abdomen. In 1 Corinthians 11:29, St. Paul seems to allude to the case of the guilty woman drinking the bitter cursed waters that caused her destruction: He who eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation (κριμα, condemnation or judgment) to himself; and there is probably a reference to the same thing in Psalm 109:18, and in Daniel 9:11."

    If she was pregnant a prolapsed uterus would definitely do the job.
     
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    Of course he does. The priest is the one that performs the abortion. He's the one with the chemical that's used for abortion.
     
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    Nope, you are merely grasping at straws again. All you can say is "this lady might not have been pregnant". Not much of an argument there since one has to ignore context and even some of the Hebrew terms used.
     
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    Gave you 3 valid commentaries, wasn’t making any other point or comment and let them speak for themselves without reading into anything, that was the point. Like I said a while ago, use a different text because you falsely use Numbers 5 as a text about abortion and it’s not.
     
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    What makes you think that they are valid? The one in the post of yours that I quoted supports the abortion claim, even though they are not brave enough to do so openly.
     
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    I do believe that you were the first with that verse. And thank you. The typical response will be "It's not immoral if God does it".
     
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    They’re just honest and you’re not
     
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    It’s not immoral for God to judge sin, is an earthy judge immoral for judging a murderer, thief, child molester, sexual predator and the like? If any judge lets the guilty go free that would be immoral. So that’s why Jesus had to come and pay for our crimes, we were guilty and deserve judgement in hell. He paid the penalty for sin Himself, Thanks be to God! That’s how I see it.
     
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    It is the other way around. In fact I can show that some of their beliefs are wrong. And they have to know that. Or at the very least they should. So either they are uneducated or dishonest.

    I have not been dishonest here nor have I used dishonest techniques, such as continually dodging the questions that show one to be wrong.
     
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    Sorry, but there is no special exclusion for God when it comes to morality. And you forgot the Adam and Eve myth. The failure of Adam and Eve was due to God's incompetence. Man really has nothing to "pay" for. And of course substitutional atonement is pure nonsense that any Christian recognizes in the real world. You continually dig a deeper and deeper hole for you and your God.

    But thank you for fulfilling my prophecy. I guess you better start calling me Saint Subduction Zone since my prophecy skills appear to be better than good old Zeke's.
     
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    No I haven't I keep reiterating myself because I'm not sure what u mean. Your talking about me saying that the child was five and crawled back into the womb?

    Why are u being so ambigious about it? State it plainly please
     
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    Lol! That my friend was the most hilarious post I’ve seen, insanity at its best! And further more if that’s your test for you fulfilling prophecy even more hilarious. You don’t even understand what the meaning of Christian is let alone how to understand Scripture.
     
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    “Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation. Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God. For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”
    ‭‭II Corinthians‬ ‭5:18-21‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

    How many more verses would you like to see about atonement for sin that Jesus provided for us?
     
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    You should just get some “white out “ for your Bible so you can get rid of what you don’t agree with and write in what you want.
     
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    “But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:21-26‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
    Another verse for our meeting this morning, thanks for the study.
     
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    “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:23‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
    I guess people that think they have nothing to pay get death, Christ offers the gift of eternal life.
     
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    I was not vague in the least. You were trying to use an argument from emotion, an improper debating technique. No one was talking about a child dying,, or a baby dying. A fetus is neither.

    Since you would not own up to your error I took you literally. A child dying in the womb can only happen if a kid crawls back up in there.
     
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    Truly amazing! You don't expect your God to be moral. My prophecy was that you would say that your God is not moral.

    Of course you believe that your God is a liar so there is no end to the odd beliefs that you have.

    How was you exactly following my prophecy almost to the letter not better than what old Zeke said?
     
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    Sorry, you don't get to use the Bible to excuse your God's poor behavior. That is the worst sort of circular reasoning.

    You keep claiming God wrote it. The criminal does not get to write his own excuse slip and use it as evidence at a trial.
     
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