Thief
Rogue Theologian
more like.....watching a sunsetWe evolved on this planet, which is why we fit so well. Sort of like the pond wondering why the banks fit it so well.
and then to say.....I AM!
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more like.....watching a sunsetWe evolved on this planet, which is why we fit so well. Sort of like the pond wondering why the banks fit it so well.
more like.....watching a sunset
and then to say.....I AM!
We have different perceptions of cause-and-effect.No, cause and effect happens in trees, not chains. There are usually multiple causes for any event, which brings into serious question the concept of a single ultimate cause.
But, I would also question the very concept of a cause for the universe. You see, causality requires time and time is part of the universe. That means that causality is part of the universe and so a cause for the universe itself is contradictory.
But, more so, we KNOW of events that are not caused in any conventional sense of the term: most quantum events are not.
We have different perceptions of cause-and-effect.
Imagine a cue ball breaking a tightly packed group of balls on a pool table. A single cause can produce multiple effects, not the reverse. Thus, a scientist could discover that the nine ball knocked the eight ball in the pocket even with no understanding of the entire event. But he'd be wrong if he argued that the cue ball wasn't involved because he didn't need knowledge of it to make his discovery.
That God is unnecessary to conduct science is not a good argument against the existence of God..
not for long
then what?
in my opinion there is evidence for a creative force that is loving.I've certainly found it to be a wholly unnecessary hypothesis.
Would posting a picture of parasites eating a child's eyeballs be evidence that there is no creative force, or that there is a creative force that is hateful?in my opinion there is evidence for a creative force that is loving.
Look at nature that can be this beautiful:
this is my evidence. There is no evolutionary need for the sand to look beautiful besides the blue water.
And it could be different: it could be muddy and ugly always.
in my opinion there is evidence for a creative force that is loving.
Look at nature that can be this beautiful:
this is my evidence. There is no evolutionary need for the sand to look beautiful besides the blue water.
And it could be different: it could be muddy and ugly always.
you can post pictures of humans not helping humans who have a problem with their eyeballs. This counts as evidence for humans not assuming their tasks?Would posting a picture of parasites eating a child's eyeballs be evidence
this isn't about spandrels though. It was a beautiful landscape.Aren't spandrels wonderful?
this isn't about spandrels though. It was a beautiful landscape.
Let's say that I spike the lemonade at a party with a poison to which you have the antidote. Then I tell you about it, yet you do nothing. Does your being able to tell people, and provide an antidote absolve me of responsibility for poisoning the drinks in the first place?you can post pictures of humans not helping humans who have a problem with their eyeballs. This counts as evidence for humans not assuming their tasks?
Who are you going to blame first?
you can post pictures of humans not helping humans who have a problem with their eyeballs. This counts as evidence for humans not assuming their tasks?
Who are you going to blame first?
Why do *we* interpret it as beautiful?
I suspect that we see it as beautiful because of a spandrel: we find things to be beautiful that are useful for health and this fits enough of the characteristics to be found beautiful. For a species where seasides are NOT healthy, they would NOT find it to be beautiful.
In other words, its beauty is more about us and about the seaside.
There are other landscapes detrimental to human health that are beautiful, too:
God is responsible for billions of deaths. It's my belief that he limited human life time.Let's say that I spike the lemonade at a party with a poison to which you have the antidote. Then I tell you about it, yet you do nothing. Does your being able to tell people, and provide an antidote absolve me of responsibility for poisoning the drinks in the first place?
Hint: No, it doesn't
God is responsible for billions of deaths. It's my belief that he limited human life time.
Moving the goal post does not help youyou can post pictures of humans not helping humans who have a problem with their eyeballs. This counts as evidence for humans not assuming their tasks?
Who are you going to blame first?
I don't suppose anything about aliens that I don't know.Let's put it this way. Suppose that an intelligent species of aliens came to Earth. Would you expect them to see the same things to be beautiful as we do?