Is Global Warming For Real?!

[Slapstick]

I read this article about scientist recording the coldest temperature in the Antarctic. Before I start I would just like to say that I am somewhat of an environmentalist. I think we should continuously push towards renewable-clean energy. Like solar, geothermal and ambient. However, when people say it is getting hotter and hotter or global warming is occurring when temperatures in the low 100 F. I wonder why people don't take into consideration the adverse affects of extremely cooler temperatures. Such as those being roughly -100F or lower in the Antarctic. Coldest Place On Earth: Antarctica Recorded Lowest Ever Temperature On Planet, Scientists Say

Is there any correlation between global warming and cooler temperatures?

 

[Kemble]

Slapstick-- these can be some possible explanations:

RealClimate: Antarctica is Cold? Yeah, We Knew That

RealClimate: Cold winter in a world of warming?

 

[Revoltingest]

The warming trend is an overall average, which doesn't preclude local decreases in temperature.
But note that this was a satellite measurement, & it might not be an actual record at all.

 

[Willamena]

I read this article about scientist recording the coldest temperature in the Antarctic. Before I start I would just like to say that I am somewhat of an environmentalist. I think we should continuously push towards renewable-clean energy. Like solar, geothermal and ambient. However, when people say it is getting hotter and hotter or global warming is occurring when temperatures in the low 100 F. I wonder why people don't take into consideration the adverse affects of extremely cooler temperatures. Such as those being roughly -100F or lower in the Antarctic. Coldest Place On Earth: Antarctica Recorded Lowest Ever Temperature On Planet, Scientists Say

Is there any correlation between global warming and cooler temperatures?

The coolest temperatures in the Antarctic; the warmest in the Arctic; the poles are getting ready to reverse; the ice age is pending.

It all makes sense, you know it does.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

The coolest temperatures in the Antarctic; the warmest in the Arctic; the poles are getting ready to reverse; the ice age is pending.

It all makes sense, you know it does.

I've watched all 37 Ice Age movies in preparation. I know exactly what to do. Although there aren't many acorns where I live.

 

[Ouroboros]

Is there any correlation between global warming and cooler temperatures?

Yes. I believe so. The term used now is now "global warming" but "global climate change" or something similar. Because it's about the temperatures and weather going extreme. The overall average temperature is going up (but I heard something about that it's going to slow down now though), and the weather being crazy. It's like people from my home country (Sweden) are telling me. They either have extreme rain, extreme cold, extreme amount of snow, or extreme heat. They have records in one or the other each year. So the weather is changing for sure, but the term "global warming" is confusing people.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't know. I don't know what's happening anymore. People talk about the weather being crazy, but hasn't it always been that way? All I know is that it's freezing cold outside with snow and ice on the ground. Next November, maybe we'll have a day in the 80s again like we did a few years ago. I don't know.

 

[outhouse]

I don't know. I don't know what's happening anymore. People talk about the weather being crazy, but hasn't it always been that way? All I know is that it's freezing cold outside with snow and ice on the ground. Next November, maybe we'll have a day in the 80s again like we did a few years ago. I don't know.

Its actually warming globally.

Yes we do go through cycles, but this warming trend goes beyond normal cycles.

We cannot sweep under the rug at how bad people has perverted the atmosphere due to how much we have advanced in the last few hundreds years, and the gases that have ended up on the atmosphere.


If we play wait and see to long, we could get to a point of no return.


Look at how bad Chinas air is, its not good for anyone globally.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

I read this article about scientist recording the coldest temperature in the Antarctic. Before I start I would just like to say that I am somewhat of an environmentalist. I think we should continuously push towards renewable-clean energy. Like solar, geothermal and ambient. However, when people say it is getting hotter and hotter or global warming is occurring when temperatures in the low 100 F. I wonder why people don't take into consideration the adverse affects of extremely cooler temperatures. Such as those being roughly -100F or lower in the Antarctic. Coldest Place On Earth: Antarctica Recorded Lowest Ever Temperature On Planet, Scientists Say

Is there any correlation between global warming and cooler temperatures?

Links have already been provided about possible explanations of why this is. However global warming doesn't mean that each and every year has to be warmer everywhere every day. Its a very slow trend. And in the artic and antarctic we have been able to cut sheets of ice to definitively tell us that not only is global warming a thing, its happened dozens and dozens of times.

 

[Awoon]

Its actually warming globally.

Yes we do go through cycles, but this warming trend goes beyond normal cycles.

We cannot sweep under the rug at how bad people has perverted the atmosphere due to how much we have advanced in the last few hundreds years, and the gases that have ended up on the atmosphere.


If we play wait and see to long, we could get to a point of no return.


Look at how bad Chinas air is, its not good for anyone globally.

The Earth knew what it was getting into when it created Humankind.:beach::cold:

 

[Yadon]

Global climate change is real. The earth can't deal with all the pollutants we are putting in it constantly; we have broken the threshold and we need to reverse it or at least make neutral impacts to give the earth time to heal.

Or else it will cause even more ecological collapse on an even larger scale. We are currently experiencing a mass extinction event due to our own alterations of our environments. We could very well destroy most life as we know it, and die out in a few generations.

 

[Valjean]

I don't think the satellite measurement is being touted as anything new. We knew the antarctic was cold, we just didn't have many real measurements before.
It might have been even colder 50 years ago -- we just don't have the measurements. Sputnik wasn't that sophisticated.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Global climate change is real

Of course it is. If it weren't, we wouldn't have a word for "climate". The question is whether or not our theory is an adequate explanation of what we know. For example, the single most important component of AGW is the value of the feedback parameter. If the increase of activity in climate subsystems due to increases in GHGs is either negligible or tends to reduce (or limit) average global temperatures, the we will not experience dangerous rises in global temperature due to human emissions for a long time (possibly ever).

If the feedback parameter is positive (and our models require it to be so in order for them to produce observed temperatures, at least during the period of time in which direct and regular measurements were taken.

Either way, the solution isn't "do x before it's too late!" as this kind of action can be incredibly costly in numerous ways and yield nothing.

The earth can't deal with all the pollutants we are putting in it

For most of its existence, including the period I which life began, the kind of "pollutants" humans emit pale in comparison to natural and sustained forcings.

constantly; we have broken the threshold

Then show me the differential equations and demonstrate the phase space shift resulting empirically supportable models and the replant fixed points that we crossed (and how).

We are currently experiencing a mass extinction event due to our own alterations of our environments

What we are experiencing is nothing compare to the mass extinctions like the pre-Cambrian. Also, certain species have adapted and depend upon our alterations. Finally (and most importantly) the earth is an open, dynamical system far from thermodynamic equilibrium. It is in constant flux. Preservation is not possible, although there are steps we must take (the major one being alternative energy sources).

We could very well destroy most life as we know it, and die out in a few generations.

There is virtually no chance of that happening. It's not just that we lack the capacity, it's that such mass extinctions are not unheard of. About 250 million years ago practically all sea life and a majority of all other life was wiped from the face of the earth. We don't know exactly why, but we do know that the most dire predictions from mainstream global warming specialists pale in comparison to the devastation which has occurred more than once since before humas existed.

 

[Yadon]

Climate change denial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Plenty of citations there to check out. The article is locked with a lot of links to scientific sources, so I don't want anyone to complain that "oh it's wikipedia!". I'm putting it up a gateway.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Funny how global warming folks go all quiet in winter.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Plenty of citations there to check out.

Pielke, R. A., Marland, G., Betts, R. A., Chase, T. N., Eastman, J. L., Niles, J. O., & Running, S. W. (2002). The influence of land-use change and landscape dynamics on the climate system: relevance to climate-change policy beyond the radiative effect of greenhouse gases. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London. Series A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences, 360(1797), 1705-1719.

Feddema, J., Oleson, K., Bonan, G., Mearns, L., Washington, W., Meehl, G., & Nychka, D. (2005). A comparison of a GCM response to historical anthropogenic land cover change and model sensitivity to uncertainty in present-day land cover representations. Climate Dynamics, 25(6), 581-609.

Thorne, P. W., Parker, D. E., Christy, J. R., & Mears, C. A. (2005). Uncertainties in climate trends: Lessons from upper-air temperature records. Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, 86(10), 1437-1442.

Veizer, J. (2005). Celestial climate driver: a perspective from four billion years of the carbon cycle. Geoscience Canada, 32(1).

De Laat, A. T. J., & Maurellis, A. N. (2006). Evidence for influence of anthropogenic surface processes on lower tropospheric and surface temperature trends. International Journal of Climatology, 26(7), 897-913.

Mahmood, R., Foster, S. A., & Logan, D. (2006). The GeoProfile metadata, exposure of instruments, and measurement bias in climatic record revisited. International journal of climatology, 26(8), 1091-1124.

Pielke, R. A., Davey, C. A., Niyogi, D., Fall, S., Steinweg‐Woods, J., Hubbard, K., ... & Blanken, P. (2007). Unresolved issues with the assessment of multidecadal global land surface temperature trends. Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (1984–2012), 112(D24).

McKitrick, R. R., & Michaels, P. J. (2007). Quantifying the influence of anthropogenic surface processes and inhomogeneities on gridded global climate data. Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (1984–2012), 112(D24).



Douglass, D. H., Christy, J. R., Pearson, B. D., & Singer, S. F. (2008). A comparison of tropical temperature trends with model predictions. International Journal of Climatology, 28(13), 1693-1701.

Battarbee, R. W., & Binney, H. A. (Eds.). (2008). Natural climate variability and global warming: a Holocene perspective (Vol. 288). Wiley-Blackwell.

Christy, J. R., & Norris, W. B. (2009). Discontinuity issues with radiosonde and satellite temperatures in the Australian region 1979-2006. Journal of Atmospheric and Oceanic Technology, 26(3), 508-522.

Le Mouël, J. L., Blanter, E., Shnirman, M., & Courtillot, V. (2009). Evidence for solar forcing in variability of temperatures and pressures in Europe. Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 71(12), 1309-1321.

Randel, W. J., Shine, K. P., Austin, J., Barnett, J., Claud, C., Gillett, N. P., ... & Yoden, S. (2009). An update of observed stratospheric temperature trends. Journal of Geophysical Research, 114(D2), D02107.

Lu, Q. B. (2010). Cosmic-ray-driven electron-induced reactions of halogenated molecules adsorbed on ice surfaces: Implications for atmospheric ozone depletion and global climate change. Physics Reports, 487(5), 141-167.



The above is nothing. It's just to illustrate that going to a website and finding links is (usually) worthless unless you don't really care about the issue and are using the reference material as a reference.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

I'm not worried about earth...it'll be fine...sucks for a good percentage of lifeforms though....

 

[outhouse]

Funny how global warming folks go all quiet in winter.

Don't see it.


I do see ice that is thousands of years old melting RAPIDLY

being a witness and reading are four different things, one being the truth, the other 3 possible educated opinions

 

[Quintessence]

Funny how global warming folks go all quiet in winter.

Perhaps because we get tired of repeatedly explaining to people that winters being cold is not a valid argument against anthropogenic-induced climate change.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Perhaps because we get tired of repeatedly explaining to people that winters being cold is not a valid argument against anthropogenic-induced climate change.

It's worse than that. When winter comes around some people don't just disregard climate change, they think warming would be good. It's not just something I've heard people say I've actually heard it said in television shows and movies. What more could indicate the state of ignorance regarding climate science than reducing global warming to a matter of indoor heating and disliking sweaters?