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Featured Is death sentence acceptable?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Remté, Feb 22, 2019.

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I don't know

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  1. Remté

    Remté Active Member

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    From a religious perspective.

    "Where do most executions take place? In 2017, most known executions took place in China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan – in that order.

    China remains the world’s top executioner – but the true extent of the use of the death penalty in China is unknown as this data is classified as a state secret; the global figure of at least 993 recorded in 2017 excludes the thousands of executions believed to have been carried out in China.

    Excluding China, 84% of all reported executions took place in just four countries – Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan. Executions per year Amnesty International recorded at least 993 executions in 23 countries in 2017, down by 4% from 2016 (1,032 executions) and 39% from 2015 (when the organization reported 1,634 executions, the highest number since 1989).

    Death sentences per year Amnesty International recorded at least 2,591 death sentences in 53 countries in 2017, a significant decrease from the record-high of 3,117 recorded in 2016. At least 21,919 people were known to be on death row at the end of 2017.
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    Why Amnesty opposes the death penalty without exception
     
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  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Libertarian Capitalist Atheist Bokononist
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    I voted <acceptable> because I find it moral when appropriately applied.
    But I still oppose it under the Ameristanian system.
    We can afford to imprison people for life, so it's worth preserving
    the option of voiding their sentence if they're later found not guilty
    when exculpating evidence turns up. And it regularly does.
     
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  3. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    "No", with the exception of if a society does not have any jails or prisons.

    1.the wrong person can be executed.

    2.it's based on the concept that people cannot change.

    3.it's strictly revenge.

    4.there's no evidence that it reduces homicides.

    5.it's not pro-life.

    6.the poor and minorities have a greater chance of being executed.
     
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  4. pcarl

    pcarl Well-Known Member

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    Agree with all six,
     
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  5. JJ50

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    I don't think the death penalty is acceptable, I am glad the UK did away with it in the 1960s
     
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  6. Altfish

    Altfish Well-Known Member

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    Definitely NO, in the UK we had many instances of miscarriages of justice. People hanged who were later proved innocent. In the days of the Irish troubles we would have put many to death who were later proved innocent.
    Sorry, the police are too corrupt and defence lawyers inept to rely on our justice system.
     
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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    I am Scandinavian. Therefore, we give more priority to recovering malfunctioning individuals, in order to reintroduce them into societey, rather than decomissioning them, mainly for emotional reasons.

    Therefore, not acceptable. For the same reason, life sentences are not acceptable, either.

    In Norway, the maximum you can get is 20 years in prison (more like hotels over there).i wish Sweden would do the same.

    Ciao

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  8. suncowiam

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    I voted yes especially for murderers and other violent criminals

    And also for cases that are irrefutable. In America, cases can be convicted on circumstantial evidence. For these, we should not enforce the death penalty. But we can measure evidence as being irrefutable.

    As I've done in another thread, the Parkland massacre is a case where I believe the evidence is irrefutable and the accused is 100% guilty of his crimes. So yes, the death penalty should apply to him if allowed by the law.
     
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  9. Ray Warren

    Ray Warren There is beauty in the silence.
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    I'm more for rehabilitation rather then death sentences.
     
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  10. Subduction Zone

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    Voted no. People are simply too imperfect to correctly apply such a measure. In a perfect world, yes only the worst of absolute murderers would face the death penalty, but in a perfect world those crimes would not exist. The same things that cause people to murder now and then will cause the death penalty to be misapplied now and then. Better to go without.
     
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  11. bobhikes

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    In a society that allows physically fought war's death will always be an acceptable penalty. How many countries have Nuclear Bombs?
     
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  12. Amanaki

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    100% against death penalty
     
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  13. rocala

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    They did not. They just "did away with it" for murder. It was still an option for High Treason, Mutiny and Piracy.
     
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  14. Quintessence

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    Under ideal population conditions, I would generally be opposed to death sentences for a variety of reasons. However, given we do not presently exist such conditions I am generally for death sentences.
     
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    I would say that execution is always wrong, but is sometimes necessary. The difference being that the former is the ideal, and the latter is the reality. We do not live in an ideal world.
     
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  16. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    If this is your only objection to the death penalty, then what if there were irrefutable proof with a confession of multi-murders by a known criminal without any redeemable qualities whatsoever? And what possible benefit to society was allowing Charles Manson to live and acquire a cult following?
     
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  17. WalterTrull

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    I gotta hunch that death is a great rehabilitator.
     
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  18. Ray Warren

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    How?
     
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  19. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    There are times I think where you have to execute for people's safety. This is particularly true of proven psychopathic driven crime or where the person has proven to be essentially unredeemable and non empathetic towards others in society in the commission of heinous crimes.

    Executions are always a tragedy, yet are sometimes necessary for obvious reasons.

    The only alternative I would think would be to offer an option of becoming voluntarily incapacitated in some fashion so they couldn't commit a particular crime even if they wanted to in exchange for life.
     
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  20. WalterTrull

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    Ya get to drop that really, really heavy book bag. Be great if we get a better reading list.
     
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