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Is Christmas......
- Thread starter Riders
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If you want it to be. But you don't have to make it pagan if you don't want to.
Ah, it's that time of year again. 
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
It comes out with the tinsel. Get your xmas bingo card out. My pen is hovering over the word Saturnalia.Ah, it's that time of year again.
There's no reliable evidence that it is, from what I've read, and there are numerous examples of winter festivals and holidays from different cultures throughout history. I also wouldn't see that as significant or unique even if it were pagan in origin, since cultures have always merged, intersected, and borrowed from each other.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
As I recall, Jesus was nailed to a cross, not a giant chocolate egg.
As I recall, Jesus was nailed to a cross, not a giant chocolate egg.
It is possible that the cross was made of chocolate appropriated from a pagan recipe. This would be a major blow to Christianity and its salvation narrative.
Probably cloned from older mid winter festivals with Christianities own twist added over 1600+ years.
I was told by a teacher at school it was added to entice pagans into Christianity, "join our club and you don't have to ditch your midwinter party" though I've never seen any evidence of this
Coincidentally, today i saw a chocolate cross while buying chocolates for Saturnalia presents.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I would say that it is now a secular holiday. There is no clear time of the year given for his birth anywhere. Nor do their appear to be any coherent arguments on when he was born. And since even before Jesus's time there were winter solstice celebrations that appears to have been a natural choice as to when to select that date.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Personally I have no more of a problem celebrating Christmas than I do of celebrating Halloween. Both started out as religious holidays but both are very secular today.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Based on what I've read, Christmas (Christ Mass) has several rituals and traditions that have pagan roots. I believe that's true, and I believe that paganism had a significant impact on Christianity as a whole, and many of its rituals, practices, and some of the Bible's accounts about Jesus' life (miracles, death, resurrection) were copied and adapted from Greek mythology and other pagan religions.
Viker
Häxan
Did you invert it? I can't resist doing that around Easter. I see the chocolate crosses, I select one or two to purchase (because chocolate is good) then invert the rest. I tried to make it look like a chocolate Easter bunny was being crucified, once. I couldn't make him stick.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Full house!
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Just like every year, a disgruntled Christian will go off on Halloween and insist that Christians shouldn't celebrate it because it's evil.
As a horror fan, I like Halloween because it's evil! I thought that was the point.
As a horror fan, I like Halloween because it's evil! I thought that was the point.
I like the costumes kids wear (and some adults)
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
As a horror fan, I like Halloween because it's evil! I thought that was the point.
I love Halloween and the ambiance of the holiday. It's my favorite holiday of the season.