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Featured Is Christmas Christian or "Satanic"?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Hella Jingles, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. Hella Jingles

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    I am sure that a majority of us recognize the pagan origins of Christmas. But very few if anybody understands the possibly "Satanic" nature of the holiday today. I am here to present the argument that Christmas is Satanic by the Christian definition of Satanic.

    The Holiday was originally spent worshiping a specific deity known mainly by two names. The "Horned God" or the "Sun God". The celebration was set on the Summer Solstice when this Horned God was thought to have brought longer and warmer days. This was basically celebrating a God for bringing summer.

    However. When the followers of the Judaistic religions came in they took the image of the Horned God and declared it as Satan. This God of the Sun became the very first visual representation of Satan, Goat head/horns, human chest, the goat legs.

    Christians and other Judaistic religions stole the holiday worshiping this god after declaring this god as Satan. You are worshiping Satan by celebrating Christmas.

    Please present counter arguments and I will refute them.
     
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    Not this again.
     
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  3. SalixIncendium

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    By this logic, if my birthday falls on February 19th, I'm celebrating George Washington's birthday and not mine.
     
  4. Hella Jingles

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    Was your birthday highjacked from George Washington by your parents?
    No, it's a coincidence.

    By my logic, a stolen Holiday should still represent what it originally was. By the same logic if you steal something from somebody it still belongs to them and not you.
     
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    The true spirit of giving is undeniable. Satan is a taker.
     
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    It only counts in Christianity if you believe you are worshipping Satan, or if others see you and are caused to beleive in the false god. Everybody knows Christmas is about Christ and not Satan so the holiday is ok for Christians. But some Christians may notice that it does not seem to be about Jesus, and since it isn't really a Christian holiday are not obligated to celebrate it.
     
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    I agree with you, in the respect that adherents to the faith that holiday celebrates have every right to celebrate it as it was originally intended.

    If that person is dead, who does that property then belong to?
     
  8. Hella Jingles

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    Is Satan a taker?

    This is most likely coming from when Satan tried to steal the throne from God.
    But view it like this. The Angels work for God in such a strict sense that they might as well be slaves. They are considered higher beings but their importance is so unrecognized within the Bible that they are never mentioned as sentient let alone possessing Free-Will like Man. Although Satan acted against his commands so they clearly have free will. That means that they are slaves, willing or not.
    This would mean that Satan wasn't just trying to take the throne from God but he was trying to give freedom to his Angel brothers and Sisters.

    The first creature to demand equal rights was a taker eh?
    Even then he never actually took from anybody. Not directly. The only time he is quoted as taking something from somebody was with God's permission, and that was to test a man.
     
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  9. Hella Jingles

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    Next of kin obviously.
    The religion belongs to the Pagans of today, or it shall be considered Satanic.
    Christians should return their image of Satan to those who worship the Horned God, as well as returning the Summer Solstice.
     
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    This statement is unsupported. Where and when was this declaration?

    The people who celebrated it became Christians. That is not stealing. That is bringing.
     
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    *blinks* Christianity belongs to the Pagans of today?

    Okay. I'm done here.
     
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  12. Hella Jingles

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    Who said that Christianity belongs to pagans?
    I said that this stolen Holiday belongs to pagans.
     
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    Horned God - Wikipedia

    Now you also mention that the people joined Christianity.
    Was that by force? Can you prove that they joined willingly?
     
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    Christmas is neither Christian nor Satanic.
    The Christians stole the winter solstice holiday off the Pagans and renamed it.
     
  15. Hella Jingles

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    My premise is a bit of a reach. But I have logic behind it.
    We both recognize that it was originally Pagan. But they also stole a Pagan/Wiccan god named "The Horned God" and claimed that it was Satan.

    If they want to own this religion they can own the deity behind it.
     
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    Giving gifts... I think the pagans gave charity to the poor during midwinter celebrations, they might be feeling hungry by that time and winter was only half way. Does that sound Satanic? Or today's Christmas where you buy all sorts of garbage the people don't even need? I think neither is satanic. Just traditions for completely different times.
     
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    That it is more plausible that the Dec 25th date results from it being 9 months after the annunciation March 25th, the date tradition said Jesus was conceived on.

    This tradition predates the Sol Invictus celebration which only began in the 3rd C.
     
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    Very few understand the satanic nature of religious forums. Did you know everyone here is actually the devil!!! I post only to inform clearly not that I am.
     
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    Do you have a source for when 25th of march became tradition?
     
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    There are no proofs in history only evidences, but some joined willingly and gave the celebrations to Christians. Can you show that none did, and tell me what happened to the celebrations? Who preserved them if not Christians?
     
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