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Is China responsible for Corona Virus or not?

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Is China responsible for Corona Virus or not?

And if responsible
Is it fair that Italy/World wants China to pay?
Is it even possible to make 1 country pay for something like this?

At least it's a good lesson not to mess with viruses/bacteria (war) IMO

Gravitas: Wuhan Coronavirus: Italians seek 'war damages' from China

As Many As 240,000 Americans Could Die From Coronavirus, President Trump Warns
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Considering that the market involved was illegal, I can't blame China for this.

There were some missteps there initially, but nothing like the missteps in other places (*cough* the USA).

I certainly don't see any 'blame' to be distributed: we are all in this *together*.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
Is China responsible for Corona Virus or not?

And if responsible
Is it fair that Italy/World wants China to pay?
Is it even possible to make 1 country pay for something like this?

At least it's a good lesson not to mess with viruses/bacteria (war) IMO

Gravitas: Wuhan Coronavirus: Italians seek 'war damages' from China

As Many As 240,000 Americans Could Die From Coronavirus, President Trump Warns
This issue is full of disinformation. No one will be able to prove anything.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Gone
Premium Member
Yes, since the unhygienic conditions and practices in various parts of the country are what created the conditions for the virus to come about. Similarly, we can blame African bushmeat practices for the emergence of HIV/AIDS.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Is China responsible for Corona Virus or not?

And if responsible
Is it fair that Italy/World wants China to pay?
Is it even possible to make 1 country pay for something like this?

At least it's a good lesson not to mess with viruses/bacteria (war) IMO

Gravitas: Wuhan Coronavirus: Italians seek 'war damages' from China

As Many As 240,000 Americans Could Die From Coronavirus, President Trump Warns
No need to blame anyone for the virus. it is here now and we must deal with it until it is gone.
 
Is China responsible for Corona Virus or not?

Yes (to some extent at least). They are the only country who could have stopped it dead in its tracks. They also put pressure on countries not to ban travel with China, put pressure on the WHO to toe their line, suppressed information, persecuted whistleblowers, etc. which worsened the situation.

Most other countries were very slow to react too though, so are not exactly blameless.

And if responsible
Is it fair that Italy/World wants China to pay?
Is it even possible to make 1 country pay for something like this?

No. I don't think you can expect countries to pay for viruses that emerged in their country.

I do think countries should put pressure on China to take steps to prevent such things happening in future though (such as better regulate their animal markets), and all countries should aim at better cooperation on issues like this in future.

Overall, it is better to learn from it than turn it into a conflict that won't be resolved to the satisfaction of any party.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No need to blame anyone for the virus. it is here now and we must deal with it until it is gone.
No, blame is important....there must be a villain...a boogeyman.
But we can't blame China because that would be racist.
So we must....

Nah...this is fun, but it's gone on long enuf.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Considering that the market involved was illegal, I can't blame China for this.

There were some missteps there initially, but nothing like the missteps in other places (*cough* the USA).

I certainly don't see any 'blame' to be distributed: we are all in this *together*.
I did read an article, that the Chinese government allowed the market, because there were a few billions of income for the poor people
So, that would not be a good argument. But still if in a bio lab in usa a vial is spilled the whole world would also be infected
At least this should be a good lesson for the Governments to not play with stuff they have no control over
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
No need to blame anyone for the virus. it is here now and we must deal with it until it is gone.
And hopefully they do not forget this when it is gone.
And if this is caused by wild animals in the market, I think it would be wise to stop this
But I read that this is a billion industry. But still, 1 lesson so big, should be a good warning.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
And hopefully they do not forget this when it is gone.
And if this is caused by wild animals in the market, I think it would be wise to stop this
But I read that this is a billion industry. But still, 1 lesson so big, should be a good warning.
I think it would be a lesson for all humanity, not only for China. But if we look at history, humans have a tendency to not remember their own fault, so we keep doing the same mistake over and over again.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Even if China were the perfect storm of creation factors,
it's not like they intended the virus. It harmed them too.
That would be too bad, if "they intended"
What would your answer be then
"They have to pay for it?"
 

leov

Well-Known Member
Is China responsible for Corona Virus or not?

And if responsible
Is it fair that Italy/World wants China to pay?
Is it even possible to make 1 country pay for something like this?

At least it's a good lesson not to mess with viruses/bacteria (war) IMO

Gravitas: Wuhan Coronavirus: Italians seek 'war damages' from China

As Many As 240,000 Americans Could Die From Coronavirus, President Trump Warns
Somebody untouchable creating our new world...
VIDEO: The "Lock Step" Simulation Scenario: "A Coronavirus-like Pandemic that Becomes Trigger for Police State Controls" - Global Research
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I don't blame China.
Sure, it started there.
Sure, they could'a handled it better.
But so could many other countries.
Similarly, I'm not blaming Lyme CT for Lyme Disease...or Germany for the German Measles.

...or PO'd bovine for Mad Cow (which, btw, has a human form of the illness, go figure...)...
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Considering that the market involved was illegal, I can't blame China for this.

There were some missteps there initially, but nothing like the missteps in other places (*cough* the USA).

I certainly don't see any 'blame' to be distributed: we are all in this *together*.

^This.
 
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