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If Buddha never taught Hinduism, then how can Buddhism have ever been a branch of Hinduism?
All of this is still quite different from Buddhism's Process-based focus on dependent co-arising.
Gita was most likely written after Buddha was around teaching, no? Did Buddha ever quote it?
The OP raised the question of whether Buddhism is a branch of Hinduism because India has been the geographical region for a great many religious movements. Hindus are known for their spirituality. We Hindus discovered Buddhism from amid centuries of spiritual thought and interactions among monks. We Hindus are never satisfied with our knowledge and continue with the thoughts to fine tune what we consider to be in the interests of humanity. This is why we always need to conduct revisionary research. Science and technology has changed and we have come from ages when information was passed down the generations through oral traditions (unreliable as these get modified) to the invention of written language and now we are in the internet age where knowledge is widely accessible. So we need to move with the times and always be open to new ideas. Those who live in the past are destined to suffer.
- If Buddha was teaching 'dhamma', that is Hinduism. You can, otherwise, hardly define Hinduism. You can find the exact opposite of any system of philosophy in Hinduism. 'Dhamma' alone is common to all dharmic religions.
Why are you mad that Buddhism is being damaged by me?
I am not mad. But i do not understand why you want to destroy something as good as Buddha dharma, I do not understand why you in one moment praise buddha and the next moment you condem it and say it is a evil path. then suddenly you want to found a new path within buddhism. Nothing you say is to the good for Buddhism or for teaching truth
I want to devise a religion that will help people attain nirvana within this lifetime, is that clear?
First you must become enlighten you self to be able to make a true cultivation path, that can save people and then you must create a Nirvana they can enter when they pass away fro this life. Then you must have a teaching that only contain truth and how to go from a non enlighten person to an enlighten being.
As long as I can always answer any questions posed to me I will call myself an enlightened person.
Enlightenment is something that happens not something we can say now i want to be enlighten so i am. That again show that you do not understand Buddhism and what the teaching is.
So are you taking the position that Buddhism is a branch of Hinduism?
I would like to be able to write my Sutta of Existential Buddhism in a few simple paragraphs one day. I have not reached enlightenment yet, as I am still waiting for God to clarify whether dharmayudha was the correct course for me to have taken.
Most definitely Buddhism is a branch of Hinduism. They all originated in the sub-continent of India under the Hindu umbrella. When the teaching spread to different countries it became a religion elsewhere that others followed while at the same time Buddhism's inconsistencies with reality saw it demoted as a religion within India. But it was throwing the baby out with the bath water for Buddhism holds tremendous strengths if it is revised. It has potential to once again become the religion of the greatest followers within India but not under Theravada or Mahayana or any of their offshoots. A fresh new insight is required.
Buddha continually refuted the arguments brought forth by the brahmins who came to him. I think it is safe to say that Buddha did not teach what the brahmins of the time asserted and taught. Instead, Buddha refuted their claims and teachings. Buddhism is very much separate and different from the teaching of the brahmins of the time.
Ahh, so it is different from Advaita.
So the evidence seems to point that Buddhism may have influenced Hinduism's development, but no evidence that Buddhism is a "branch" of Hinduism then?
How do you see this fresh new insight adressing metaphysical issues like reincarnation? Like Brahman?
It will depend on who it is that people listen to when we talk about the existence of God as a Personal God monitoring human activities and guiding humans into their dharmic actions, and the mechanisms by which this is accomplished.
I am not clear on what you are saying? Brahman is different than the Abrahamic God concept. I was asking about Brahman, the One Consciousness.
