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Is being gay a sin according to your religion?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by AlphaAlex115, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I don't believe there is any such thing as bi-sexuality. I believe there are those who seek pleasure sexually without paying attention to whether it is a good thing or not. For instance all people eat but some people gorge themselves until they are sick. (The sin of gluttony)

    I believe God allows us to learn from our mistakes while working to bring us into harmony with Him. I believe most sin comes because there has been a deception at some time leading the person away from wholesomeness.
     
  2. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I only have one experience with this. Once when manning CBN's phone lines I had a call from a person wishing to leave Homosexuality. He did not explain why but he did seem to be sensitive to the religious issues.
    However he did not appear to have hostility towards me as though I were victimizing him but was sincerely seeking help.
     
  3. Draka

    Draka Wonder Woman

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    Is there such a thing as ambidextrous to you? It exists. Equal ability to use either hand, no clear dominance between sides, both being equal in strength and ability. Since that is determined in the brain, sort of a middle road between left and right handed when one has started to form dominance but was unable to complete before that side of the brain stopped forming so the other side picked up the rest of development, then why is it so hard for you to believe that the same thing is possible with sexuality? The brain determines whether one is homosexual or heterosexual, so why would there not be some who fall inbetween? There are. Your unwillingness to believe so does not change that.
     
  4. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I don't believe Adam and Eve were the first people on earth so the "go and multiply" applies to those first created and then I believe only in a general sense for the purpose of replenishing the earth.

    In other words I don't believe it is a sin to not have children unless God has directly commanded someone to do so.
     
  5. Draka

    Draka Wonder Woman

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    So, from what I see here it appears you are saying that people should be having the type of sex that will result in children and that is what makes a "real" marriage. However, you are also saying that it doesn't matter if people have children or not. The idea that people can get married for "friendship" and choose not to have children seems to me to say it would be okay for homosexuals to do the same. I mean, if it doesn't really matter if people do or can have children then what does it matter? But you seem to think that what makes a marriage is the putting of a penis in a vagina regardless of outcome. I have to say, that is a very messed up way to view marriage. If marriage is nothing more than two people committing to put a penis into a vagina, I have to wonder why anyone would want to get married at all. What is the real purpose of it? "God granted blessing" on the vaginal intercourse? Really? Your god is so warped as to set up marriage as nothing more than a "I now say that your vaginal intercourse is allowed"? Oh, but don't do any other kind of physical love-making, that's a no-no. So according to this logic, people that have no love for each other at all and just want to screw, their marriages are "blessed", but two people that love each other with all their worth, because they don't partake in vaginal intercourse...nope, they can't commit to each other and anything they do to each other to show their love physically...bam!...Hell!

    Yeah, your god is surely a warped one.
     
  6. Katzpur

    Katzpur Not your average Mormon

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    May I just remind you who it is you're playing chess with.
     
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  7. Baladas

    Baladas An Págánach

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    Nope.The idea of it is rather silly to me at best.
     
  8. AlphaAlex115

    AlphaAlex115 Active Member

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    why :S
     
  9. dgirl1986

    dgirl1986 Big Queer Chesticles!

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    Belief and reality/fact are two different things.
     
  10. columbus

    columbus yawn <ignore> yawn

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    I don't think the word silly is quite right.

    Primitive seems more accurate.

    Tom
     
  11. Storm

    Storm ThrUU the Looking Glass

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    Nah.... Cultures that tend to get sneered at as primitive also tend to be far less prude and sanctimonious. Fancy that....
     
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  12. Muffled

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    I believe the fact that you believe God is warped reveals a lot about your moral condition.

    I believe If a man and a woman are not going to have sex, I wouldn't call it a marriage but that does not mean that they could not have a covenant relationship. Homosexuals could have a covenant relationhip also but if there is sex involved it is sin.

    I believe true love does not do perverted things.

    I believe you are saying my God is warped because He doesn't approve of doing warped things. Talk about obverse reasoning.
     
  13. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe I have been called to account for saying there are facts and if you state that there are it is only your belief.
     
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    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I have been called a prude which I consider a compliment since it somes from the word prudent which means wise.
     
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    Storm ThrUU the Looking Glass

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    Actually, that's not what prudent means. And prudishness is in fact folly.
     
  16. Draka

    Draka Wonder Woman

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    Because I can see how something is logically warped that says something about my morals? Yeah, I guess perhaps it does. It means my morals are so good that I can easily discern when something is right because it is fair and makes sense and something is wrong because it is unfair and logically fails.

    You are the one who said that those who do not have children, and marry with friendship, can still get married. I merely turned around your very argument. See...the logic you used failed you didn't it? And if that is the logic you've gained from what you believe your god has decreed then it just shows that your god, if it were to exist, employs a warped logic that fails against reasoned argument. Such a god would be a silly god to follow. It takes mental gymnastics to follow such an illogical creature.
     
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    joshua3886 Great Purple Hippo

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    According to my religion, Robotology, no it is not a sin. Robosexuality however is a sin. The good book saith a robot shall not lie down with a human nor do it standing or any angle in between.
     
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  18. Draka

    Draka Wonder Woman

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    Ohhhh, I guess these people didn't read that book. How naughty!
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    I bet you just hate this filth. It really disgusts you doesn't it? I may as well be posting porn.
     
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    joshua3886 Great Purple Hippo

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    I don't get disgusted by it, I just think it's sad these people can't find a real girlfriend/boyfriend.
     
  20. Draka

    Draka Wonder Woman

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    But, if the robots are sentient, then who are you to judge they are not "real"? Are their emotions not worth considering? And those whom love the robots, why do you judge their love? Whom they can love? What gives you that right?
     
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