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Yep. It's real to the one's that see it or hear it and is processed in their mind as beautiful.
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Is beauty real?
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Yep. It's real to the one's that see it or hear it and is processed in their mind as beautiful.
Cooky
Veteran Member
That's called reductionism, which is harmful to human growth.
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
So heat and cold don't actually exist but are concepts that we made up to help better understand the world?
PureX
Veteran Member
The only 'reality' we have is the one we carry in our minds as a result of our limited experience and understanding of 'what is'.
The truth is 'what is'. Reality is what we think 'is', is.
Unfortunately, we humans are so accustomed to just blindly presuming that what we think is real, is 'what is' real, that we don't even have two different terms for designating the difference. We call them both "reality" when in fact one is what we think reality is, and the other is 'what is' regardless of what we think.
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
We mistake the map for the territory
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Jacob's Ladder
But isn't reality defined as that which is real? Isn't truth defined as that which comports with reality? So how can reality be subjective but truth objective if they're basically the same thing?
Cooky
Veteran Member
This also, is a reductionist bias. The human mind, IMO, is like the diamond of life. Here being animated stardust, we can begin with ourselves to unlock the mysteries of the universe... And we see beauty.
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
They don't do beautiful things, we see them as beautiful
Cooky
Veteran Member
I think temperature is real. Just like space, matter and gravity are real.
Yeah I agree. I don't understand how those things are concepts that we created.
Cooky
Veteran Member
But as the most advanced lifeforms, and being made up entirely of stardust and animated and with a conciousness, why would our interpretation of beauty be not real?
...We are pretty legit beings, afterall. The product of Billions and Billions of years of evolution.
She also thinks she has a great guy we all know thats total BSM. which brings me Back to john prine inspite of ourselves!
Correct. Belief is delusional. As well as non belief and agnosticism.
Its also mentally unhealthy for some. The mentally ill all spin into a kind of reductive reality of self reference. It happened to nietchze but it happens in all arenas of human thought. Its normal.
That doesn't make sense. How can belief and non belief both be delusional? And if they're both delusional then what are the other non delusional options, if there are any?