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Is beauty real?

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by Landon Caeli, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    To me, it seems that life often strives, and makes attempts to achieve beauty. So is beauty an actual fundamental thing? Or just an imaginary concept. Even if imaginary, why does even that exist?

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  2. The Reverend Bob

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    It is real in the eye of the beholder
     
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  3. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Even the things life makes, we try to make beautiful.

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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    So true. For example: my wife thinks running horses are beautiful; I just see them as a waste of a good pair of boots.
     
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    A lot of what we find beautiful as a certain symmetry to it. We constantly look for patterns and are fascinated by them
     
  6. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I think our concepts of beauty has a lot to do with symmetry.

    At the end of the day, it always comes down to the eye of the beholder me thinks.
     
  7. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Yes I've heard that. Others might argue that concepts of beauty are rooted in sexual / reproductive instincts.

    ...But none of that explains why people think flowers are beautiful. Or why we strive toward beautiful architecture.
     
  8. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    No doubt. I think a lot of people like clean lines and smooth curves in general.
     
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    I think it is rooted in our survival instinct, in order to survive, our consciousness evolved to see patterns and when we see them we weave an inner narrative in regards to them
     
  10. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    I agree with that, but why?
     
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    How?
     
  12. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Because patterns indicate what in regards to our survival?
     
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    We are hardwired for it, it is the root of our consciousness
     
  14. PureX

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    Reality is an ideal. Beauty is an ideal. Thus, beauty is as real as reality, itself.
     
  15. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    For instance, the flower is beautifully colored, because colors attract insects who pollinate the flowers...

    ...But why do I think the flowers are beautiful, I'm not a bug.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    BUT!!! Why do trees do beautiful things when it's unnecessary to their survival?

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    But one definition of ideal states that ideal means "existing only in the imagination; desirable or perfect but not likely to become a reality." How can reality be imagined or made up? That seems paradoxical to me. Reality can't be real if it's imagined since it can be whatever anyone wants it to be and therefore not objective.
     
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    And that's all that need be said.

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  19. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Why does the woodpecker have a red head?

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    Of course pleasures to the senses are real.
     
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