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Is Beastiality (Zoophilia) morally wrong or right?
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Fluffy
A fool
I wonder if in a few hundred years, when homosexuality is tolerated and completly normal in society, if bestiality won't take its place as the misunderstood sexuality. Remember just because you don't like something or you find something disgusting, even if you find something totally unnatural, none of these things lead to this thing being morally wrong. That is making an assumption and jumping to a conclusion. Its a lovely one to make because it means you can justify how you feel to yourself.
The thing is people are only against bestiality because they are disgusted by it. Fair enough. It still doesnt make it wrong. What about if some members of homo erectus were alive and well today. Would you find having sex with them morally wrong? How about if the human race took another step in evolution, would sexual intercourse with the further evolved race be wrong? Besides noone seems to have a problem with bestiality in Star Trek or any other Science Fiction programme and there is PLENTY of it as well
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The thing is people are only against bestiality because they are disgusted by it. Fair enough. It still doesnt make it wrong. What about if some members of homo erectus were alive and well today. Would you find having sex with them morally wrong? How about if the human race took another step in evolution, would sexual intercourse with the further evolved race be wrong? Besides noone seems to have a problem with bestiality in Star Trek or any other Science Fiction programme and there is PLENTY of it as well
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Doc
Space Chief
According to our laws in America, it was not long ago that it was immoral and unlawful for blacks to marry whites. People still believe that too. That did not make it wrong either. In fact, I promote inter-racial marriage. The more diversity we have, the less prejudice we will have.
Bestiality is not in a category with homosexuality....it is closer to child porn...hopefully neither will be accepted, as they involve using innocent beings for selfish pleasure.Fluffy said:I wonder if in a few hundred years, when homosexuality is tolerated and completly normal in society, if bestiality won't take its place as the misunderstood sexuality. Remember just because you don't like something or you find something disgusting, even if you find something totally unnatural, none of these things lead to this thing being morally wrong. That is making an assumption and jumping to a conclusion. Its a lovely one to make because it means you can justify how you feel to yourself.
The thing is people are only against bestiality because they are disgusted by it. Fair enough. It still doesnt make it wrong. What about if some members of homo erectus were alive and well today. Would you find having sex with them morally wrong? How about if the human race took another step in evolution, would sexual intercourse with the further evolved race be wrong? Besides noone seems to have a problem with bestiality in Star Trek or any other Science Fiction programme and there is PLENTY of it as well
Fluffy
A fool
Sorry yes you are right, as it exists at the moment anyway. But then again you can have homosexual rape as well as homosexual consensual sex. I am only in favour of the latter not the former and I think that bestiality can be split in the same way. Child porn cannot be split in such a way since a child could (perhaps) never be said to have enough experience to make that kind of decision.
Druidus
Keeper of the Grove
I don't mean the natural right to bang any being whenever you feel like it. Most certainly not. However, if some guy has a dog, who, after a while, "presents" herself to the owner, the same way she would for another dog, then I think that it should be ok for the guy to have sex with the dog. ONLY, and only if, the dog loves the human, and consents to the relationship. Paedophilia is in a category by itself. An evil category. However, we have to determine what the age of consent should be. In Canada, it's fourteen. I think that that is a good age, because I was able to determine when, and if, I should have sex at that age. However, I don't know about my peers. There is no question for females when their animal companion is aroused for them. Take, for simplicity's sake, a dog. The dog will get an erection, and if allowed, will mount the female, and attempt to copulate. Clearly this shows consent from the dog, as the dog has initiated the encounter.
cardero
Citizen Mod
I believe that animals do not desire us in the same way that humans desire each other. Any human who lusts after an animal sexually can reasonably assure themselves that these feelings are one-sided. Any human who owns a pet can witness the soulful attempts that an animal tries to get our attention or witness actual displays of affection. There are many superior ways that animals can share love with us without humans having to resort to those means. An animals sense of loyalty, trust, security are all valid expressions of love. There are also many ways that we can articulate our love with animals without ever having to loosen our belts.
Fluffy
A fool
lol and that is the same feeling some people have towards same-gender sex. The point is, is something which is "disgusting" for some people therefore wrong and sinful?Sorry, but I think that is SICK!
I know I have equated homosexuality with bestiality a lot in my posts and I dont mean to do this to degrade homosexuality in any way since I see nothing wrong with it, I just can't see any reason for not applying the same arguments to bestiality.
However, there are some issues that haven't been discussed yet. Having sex with other animals could lead to a more dangerous situation. For example, would it be possible for certain diseases, that humans do not yet get, to be passed to humans via intercourse and then causing an AID's like scenario? The same could of course be said the other way around and is perhaps more likely.
Reverend Jeremiah
Member
ok, ok, ok...I'll admit it...I have a thing for boo.
He's the sexiest hampster ever known!
He's the sexiest hampster ever known!
Retro -- You stated earlier that you thought [italics mine] bestiality was "SICK," but you have not, thus far, explained the reasoning behind this assessment. If this opinion wasn't arrived at by critical analysis of the relevant facts it is better described as a feeling rather than a thought. I suspect you feel bestiality is wrong -- a perfectly legitimate evaluation, but qualitatively different from thinking it's wrong.
jamaesi
To Save A Lamb
Animals are capable of giving consent. Male horses will get all doo-dangely on humans sometimes and dogs try to hump their owners. If an animal doesn't like what's going on, it would have no part in it. Dogs can bite and horses can stomp you to the ground. I'm having trouble seeing how a male dog with a female human is really forced to hump her.
Other animals have sex with animals of other species, as it's been brought up here. Once again, humans are animals and not the only ones who get pleasure from sex, or have sex for pleasure. I can name pigs and dolphins of the top of my mind.
Children are incapable of giving consent and most importantly , not sexually mature. If an animal is sexually mature and actively engaging in the sexual activity, how is it wrong?
And for the last time, homosexuality is two HUMAN BEINGS of the same gender who are also in love. Trying to connect it to beastility is a logical fallacy.
:banghead3
Just because you think it's disgusting doesn't make it wrong. I'd have trouble choking down a worm but I hear they're high in protein. If the most of an arguement that you can come with is "OMGEWGROSS" you probably won't have your point of view taken seriously.
Other animals have sex with animals of other species, as it's been brought up here. Once again, humans are animals and not the only ones who get pleasure from sex, or have sex for pleasure. I can name pigs and dolphins of the top of my mind.
Children are incapable of giving consent and most importantly , not sexually mature. If an animal is sexually mature and actively engaging in the sexual activity, how is it wrong?
And for the last time, homosexuality is two HUMAN BEINGS of the same gender who are also in love. Trying to connect it to beastility is a logical fallacy.
:banghead3
Just because you think it's disgusting doesn't make it wrong. I'd have trouble choking down a worm but I hear they're high in protein. If the most of an arguement that you can come with is "OMGEWGROSS" you probably won't have your point of view taken seriously.
linwood
Well-Known Member
I agree with your entire post other than the above.
Love is not a prerequisite for a homsexual relationship any more than it is for a heterosexual relationship.
Alot of people here claiming the ability to consent is the standard by which bestiality is judged immoral.
It`s been shown that animals can and do consent.
Even if they couldn`t it wouldn`t really matter much as far as morality is concerned considering I`m sure most who use this argument for ability to consent still enjoy the occassional hamburger .
john313
warrior-poet
i think it is morally wrong to have sex with non human animals; but what do i know, i think it is morally wrong to keep them in cages, inject them full of hormones/steroids to make them big and fat, kill them, and eat them. I thought the purple hamsters were from saturn. With so many humans out there that want sex all the time, why turn to nonhumans? Unless someone is trying to make a centaur or minotaur or the like.
Natural Submission
Active Member
Having sex with an animal can be likened to rape. The animal in most cases doesn't really have a choice in the matter. For this reason alone it should be stopped and considered wrong. Those who come back with the impotent arguement that some animals get into it and do it of their own free will, is a psycho rapist. The same way if one were to take advantage of an innocent child and corrupt his mind by giving him a child a knife and telling him to stab someone with it, he might actually laugh while doing it, OBLIVIOUS to the seriousness of the situation. In the same way animals are oblivious to their actions in this sex induced state and are being taken advantage of.