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Is atheism the teenage revolt years?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by bobhikes, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. Songbird

    Songbird She rules her life like a bird in flight

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    I still don't know what that means regarding my joke to R. :confused:
     
  2. doppelganger

    doppelganger Through the Looking Glass

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    I like Nietzsche's four stages better, from Zarathustra:

    The Spirit (the original child)= the innocence of the creative human, unburdened by "oughts" but responsive to desires/aversions. Trying to order its reality and find meaning.

    The Camel = the social creature burdened with apparent obligations - here you find the "believers" - followers of religions and those whose identity is unself-consciously wrapped up in nationality, ethnicity or ideology.

    The Lion = the destroyer, challenging the values and presumptions upon which the preservation of social relationships depend - here is where your vision of what constitutes "atheists" is operating. Though many atheists are as plugged in as believers in "science" and nationalism as any religious zealot.
    Here there's nihilism. The Dark Night of the Soul.

    Return to the Child - mysticism, self-actualization, re-discovery of the power of childhood creativity but with self-awareness. Creators of values - great artists, scientists (though not technicians), philosophers.
     
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  3. Viker

    Viker Caucasian detritus

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    Not really. How can I oppose something I do not believe is real? Atheism isn't opposition to a god it is a lack of belief in a god. There is no desire to rebel or get away from a god that one thinks is not there. Also, I do not see any actual correlation between age and belief or lack there of. Most kids and teen agers I meet are adamant about a belief in a god or something really great out there. They just often feel that it has to be their way or no other way, in other words, their god would never allow a bunny to die.
     
  4. krsnaraja

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    Oh, I thought it was not a joke. Words should be more graphic. That`s why sometimes I download videos to send across the firing line my points of view so they could be better understood.
     
  5. Songbird

    Songbird She rules her life like a bird in flight

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    Ah. :)
     
  6. krsnaraja

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    Okay. You`re perfectly healthy! Your tonsils are not swollen, there are no cavities in your teeth. no nothing. :D
     
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  7. bobhikes

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    What is funny to me is that you say I'm completely lost yet you keep engaging me. You can't just walk away. Just like the teenager you have to have the last word. Well I want to have one of the longest threads so as long as you willing to engage a lunatic I'm willing to reply.

    The adult knows what fights need not be fought. Even the child will stop when the fight can't be won. Only the teenager has the will and strenght to keep going forever. As I said I want to be the teenager so I keep at this.

    Prove me wrong walk away.
     
  8. 9-10ths_Penguin

    9-10ths_Penguin 1/10 Subway Stalinist
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    And you don't? Exactly what do you think you're doing now?

    When I engage in discussion with someone online who's bound and determined to make an *** of himself, it's usually not to change that person's mind; it's to show the poor quality of the person's argument to the rest of the people reading the thread.

    But you are right in one respect: me participating here is probably pointless, because you did a damned good job of showing us just how poor your argument was all on your own.
     
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  9. doppelganger

    doppelganger Through the Looking Glass

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  10. Songbird

    Songbird She rules her life like a bird in flight

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    :p What about the voices in my head? One just told me to make a sandwich.
     
  11. Mestemia

    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
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    It has always been my opinion that trying to compare a persons relationship with god to a persons relationship to their parents has got to be one of the all time biggest fails in all the history of mankind.

    This thread has done nothing more that thoroughly confirm my opinion.
     
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  12. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    I'd add that it's boring....at least from my perspective:
    Baby - atheist
    Child - atheist
    Pre-teen - atheist
    Teen - atheist
    Adult - atheist
    Middle age - atheist
    Curmudgeon - atheist
    Worm food - no opinion
     
  13. Tristesse

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    Resprect has to be earned and not simply adhered to, if my parents beat me, should I also respect them?

    Agnosticism isn't a happy middle ground, as a lot of people like to think it is. The fact of the matter is that while you may not like it, agnostics are atheists, they both don't believe a god exists. While you may object to it, thats the fact of the matter. However, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. You can be both.

    Why should theistic views be respected? I respect their right to hold those views, but I do not respect the views themselves.
     
  14. fantome profane

    fantome profane Keep safe, and keep your neighbours safe.
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    Atheists do not “oppose God”. That is ridiculous.
     
  15. Gjallarhorn

    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    I was:
    Baby - atheist
    Child - agnostic theist
    Pre-teen - theist
    Teen - agnostic theist/baseline agnostic
    Adult (I might not yet qualify for this one) - Agnostic atheist, on my way to gnostic atheist
     
  16. atanu

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    There is a stage just before the worm food stage when one may not be able to relish bacon. :eat:
     
  17. linwood

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    I think agnostic is an adjective, not a noun.

    You can be an "agnostic theist"
    You can even be an "agnostic atheist"


    I don`t know of anyone who is simply.. "agnostic"
     
  18. gnomon

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    Atheism is not a revolt against God.

    So no.
     
  19. bobhikes

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    Don't you believe you've shown all you can or do you need the last word. Can't you walk away knowing you proved your point. If you walk away no more comments, no frubals, no IM's I'll admit that I could be wrong. Give me the last word and I'll admit I could be wrong.

    I've said what I've had to say my only reply's have been to you. If I'm wrong end this.
     
  20. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    That state would be "despair".
    (I plan to avoid it.)
     
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