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Featured Is Atheism based on superstition?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by paarsurrey, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. paarsurrey

    paarsurrey Veteran Member

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    Atheism has neither basis in Revelation nor in science.
    Right? Please
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    How did you come to that conclusion?
     
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    Haha. I had to laugh at the title. Really, though.

    Strict terms:

    Theist is a person who believes in god(s).
    A- theist is a person who believes the opposite. (Hence the A- in English)

    So, if I handed you an invisible million dollar bill, would it take more faith/belief to believe that dollar bill is there or would it be easier or common sense to know the dollar bill is not there?

    Is it easier to believe something is there that is not there; or, is it easier to believe something is not there because it is not there to begin with?

    If the former, you have to have some superstition (beliefs not based on logic) in the latter, you have fact based on logic.

    Why is either right or wrong? They are fine in themselves as long as the people who believe in X or know Y is true lives a healthy life, with themselves, others, and their environment and we hope to have peace........
     
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    "Is atheism based on superstition?" No, that would be theism.
    What superstition could atheism possibly be based on?

    OK... But what's your point? Atheists claim no revelation, and an assertion without evidence is outside of the scope of science.
    Atheism is based on reason and logic. It's reasonable to withhold belief in something till actual evidence emerges.
     
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  5. Unveiled Artist

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    What's the difference between a person running on a treadmill thinking he will some day get to point A and someone else in jogging shoes knowing they will get to point A

    but after the end of the day, they are just going around in circles per 24 hours 7 days in a week. Where are they going?

    There is no such thing as atheism and theism in reality. Whats here is here and what is not, is not. Let it be.
     
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    I never heard such rote, why the hell would atheist have a superstitious belief, that all belongs to religion, It makes me laugh when the religious minded try to turn their own backward thinking, and trying to project that onto the atheist, shame on you.
     
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  7. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita Vedanta and Spiritualist and Pantheist
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    No, I wouldn't say atheism is based on superstition. I would say it is based on too much materialist science (when they do not even know why there is the material).
     
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    Kuzcotopia If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.

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    This is accurate.

    Not sure what it has to do with superstition (as in the thread title). Can you connect the dots?
     
  9. Disciple of Jesus

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    Atheism can be the adherence between religions. Considering that religion is far more prevalent, there isn't really any reason to assume otherwise. The argument that there are ''more'' atheists, now, could also be false, since it may be a product of simply more noticeable atheist position. In general, we might assume that pockets of atheism will gradually conform to quasi-religious /gurus and such, adherence, to outright strict ''religious'' adherence, when the people brought up with atheism seek /religious meaning, so forth.
    We might notice this in microcosm's, actually, example the guru etc fads that fill the space between liberal Christianity/ culturally.

    Is atheism the road to occult, gurus, and strict religious adherence?
     
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    Bloody hell, all atheism means is a lack or belief in a god, what is so hard about that, why make a big song and dance about it, my god, get over it.
     
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    I believe most definitely so.
     
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    Not sure where you get those assumptions from.
    Atheists do NOT believe in the supernatural, gods, the occult, etc.
    Get over it.
     
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    You completely misunderstood the post. Atheism can ''lead'' to those things, because it leaves a gap /people raised with atheism, so forth.

    Not even sure why you made that comment, it makes no sense, and assumes that I don't understand atheism.
     
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    Maybe I did misunderstand your post but I don't understand the logic of it.
    Atheism looks to science for answers.
     
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    It might in a certain context, but that doesn't mean that all atheism is based on that sort of /presumption, or, that it follows some absolute methodology. The fact that most people aren't atheists, would indicate, that most people actually pursue non-atheistic answers etc, at some point.
     
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    The reason most people aren't atheists is that through state, school and parental intervention they are indoctrinated at an early age to believe in a god.
    Undoing this indoctrination is hard in the west and virtually impossible in some states - so yes, children believe what their parents and peers tell them (That's a good Darwinian trait).

    If people were not forced to comply with religious doctrines and instead were taught about ALL religions and none; do you still believe there would be so many religious people in the world?
     
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    [Edit: Removed initial response. I thought the question read "based off superstition" and thus my mistake. Revised reply below]

    No.

    Right, because it doesn't need either of those.
    Science may somewhat support it in some way, but that would not be something done intentionally.
     
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    or poppycock
     
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  20. paarsurrey

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    It is not absolutely essential for an Atheist to be reasonable. Atheism people are not bound to look to science for answers.
    Are they? Please
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