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Featured Is artwork depicting Jesus Christ as nude or with pubic

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Jonathan Bailey, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. Jonathan Bailey

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    hair revealed perverse?

    Who here is offended by such renderings of the
    person whom Christians call their Lord and Savior?
     
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    Nobody seemed bothered by this (King David) in 1504,

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    I think the human body is best covered up, male or female.
     
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    Why?
     
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    There are also paintings of Mary breastfeeding Jesus with nude breasts.
     
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    I don't think it is particularly attractive.
     
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    In a way it seems very disrespectful to consider the body of Christ as obscene or disturbing.

    He represents god in man, not god in a respectable suit.
     
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    People are more than happy to see him gushing blood from his hands, sides and feet in gore fest films, but nudity is too much.
     
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    That does seem perverse.
    I couldn’t decide whether your post was funny or serious :cool: so I rated it useful.
     
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    Especially on fat people with no tans and with tatts.
     
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    I just hope people don't look at the unclothed
    body of Christ in some horny sort of way.
    That would not be pious of thought.
     
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    Actually sexual attraction to G-d or gods goes back a long way and is considered in some traditions a benefit.
     
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    The Christian hatred of the nude body is very bizarre. He would've been crucified nude, after all. But apparently a bloody, tortured corpse is more acceptable for public viewing. Probably Christianity's Gnostic dualist leanings coming out. Nudity is life-affirming and Christianity rejects this life and the world, so it makes sense that they would look down on nudity. The prudish attitude is still odd, though.
     
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    He was just a human male like any other. If he had a partner, gay or straight, they might have thought him sexy.
     
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    Christian old ladies probably made nudity a "perverse" thing. They are old, unattractive and therefore jealous of beautiful young bodies. Since God supposedly made Adam in His own image, I can't image a nude God or a nude Christ looking any different from a nude mortal man. Michelangelo only painted a clothed God on the Sistine Chapel ceiling. A nude God rendered might have otherwise shocked old women even at that time.

    Could it be that a nude human body, like sexual matters, is deemed a distraction of the mind away from devotion and spirituality regarding God? Is that why nudity and sex is villified in Christianity? I don't think the Jews and Muslims have a high appreciation for nudity also. Nudity was widely celebrated in the pagan religions of antiquity.
     
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    Honestly, I think that would just be a reflection of the viewer’s inner state.
    If looking at the naked image of god in-man is disturbing, the viewer could take that as a helpful, and very discrete, prompting that their sexuality is in some way compromised.
     
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    Yes, the viewer of the naked Christ has low self-esteem and is ashamed of his own body image, perhaps. Unattractive people most likely scorn sex and nudity. Old men often are dirty horny old men while old women are sex and nudity haters. Women go through menopause and have no sexual interest at a certain age.
     
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    Yes. It is also blasphemy.

    [quoe]Who here is offended by such renderings of the
    person whom Christians call their Lord and Savior?[/QUOTE] I'm not offended, God would be. And the creator of such perversity would be the one to pay that price.

    Years ago a man put an upside down crucifix in a Mason jar full of his own contaminated urine. Something that was displayed in an alleged art museum.
    He later died of AIDS. If there is a judgment waiting his regret will be worthless then . (And to offset the possibility of snark after saying that, no, I did not state that AIDS was his punishment from God. I stated that his creation was his perversion while he was infected with AIDS).

    Such blasphemy shouldn't offend the Christian. It should instead be an indicator that the creator of such things is mentally ill, currently eternally damned, and a pervert.
    Rather than waste our time being offended on behalf of an all knowing power that can take care of himself, we should instead realize that it is God who will judge. They may reap monetary rewards for their perverse creations in this life however, once they're dead if there is a judgment as promised in the scriptures, their fiat notes acquired in this life for blasphemous creations will do then no good. In fact, they'd give it all back if they could have a second chance and escape that sentence.
     
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    Lol, nudity is God's creation but offends him? What a stupid concept of God you have. Oh, and that wasn't meant to be offensive:

    "Serrano has not ascribed overtly political content to **** Christ and related artworks, on the contrary stressing their ambiguity. He has also said that while this work is not intended to denounce religion, it alludes to a perceived commercializing or cheapening of Christian icons in contemporary culture.[9] Subsequently, he has explicitly rejected the assertion that he was motivated by blasphemy, saying instead that it was intended as a serious work of Christian art. He said, "What it symbolizes is the way Christ died: the blood came out of him but so did the **** and the ****. Maybe if **** Christ upsets you, it's because it gives some sense of what the crucifixion actually was like... I was born and raised a Catholic and I've been a Christian all my life."[10]"
    **** Christ - Wikipedia

    It wasn't upside down, either.
     
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