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Is antimatter the spiritual realm?

Cooky

Veteran Member
Anti-matter... It no longer exists because it's the opposite of the matter that makes up us and everything we see. It's something that cannot exist in this universe, so if it were possible that there was another universe, where anti-matter dominated, the laws of physics would be completely foreign to all we know...

...I wonder what that universe would look like. Would it be like heaven?

Then we have dark matter... it's not quite regular matter, but not quite anti-matter either. It can clump together to form objects, and makes up a whopping 27% of the universe. Like a ghost, it exists invisibly, and cannot be seen or touched. So is dark matter just regular matter mixed with spirit matter? Is dark matter and dark energy half spiritual and half regular matter?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Anti-matter... It no longer exists because it's the opposite of the matter that makes up us and everything we see. It's something that cannot exist in this universe, so if it were possible that there was another universe, where anti-matter dominated, the laws of physics would be completely foreign to all we know...

...I wonder what that universe would look like. Would it be like heaven?

Then we have dark matter... it's not quite regular matter, but not quite anti-matter either. It can clump together to form objects, and makes up a whopping 27% of the universe. Like a ghost, it exists invisibly, and cannot be seen or touched. So is dark matter just regular matter mixed with spirit matter? Is dark matter and dark energy half spiritual and half regular matter?
If it's detectable by our technology, then it's in the material realm.
But it doesn't seem to like us.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
If it's detectable by our technology, then it's in the material realm.
But it doesn't seem to like us.

Or is it half and half..? Half spirit half regular, having taken on some of the qualities of antimatter (God's matter)...

...A Spiritual / physical matter hybrid, existing in the universe.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Or is it half and half..? Half spirit half regular, having taken on some of the qualities of antimatter (God's matter)...

...A Spiritual / physical matter hybrid, existing in the universe.
How would such a thing be knowable?
Many claim that ordinary matter interacts with the supernatural world.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
"Spirit" seems to be more related to consciousness than to physical matter. So I would say that "spirit", is more likely to be an energy pattern, shaped in some way by consciousness, than a form of matter.
 

Miken

Active Member
Anti-matter... It no longer exists because it's the opposite of the matter that makes up us and everything we see. It's something that cannot exist in this universe, so if it were possible that there was another universe, where anti-matter dominated, the laws of physics would be completely foreign to all we know...

...I wonder what that universe would look like. Would it be like heaven?

Then we have dark matter... it's not quite regular matter, but not quite anti-matter either. It can clump together to form objects, and makes up a whopping 27% of the universe. Like a ghost, it exists invisibly, and cannot be seen or touched. So is dark matter just regular matter mixed with spirit matter? Is dark matter and dark energy half spiritual and half regular matter?

Particle accelerators generate antimatter all the time. Certain ordinary physical processes do it as well, such as fluorine-18 and oxygen-15 isotope decay. These release positrons, which allows them to be used as tracers in Positron Emission Tomography used in studying the internal processes such as blood flow of medical patients. Nothing spiritual going on here.

Replace all of the matter in the universe with antimatter and the laws of physics are almost completely identical. Only examination of neutrino spin states could tell the difference. Living in an antimatter universe would be the same as living in this universe. Again nothing spiritual going on.

What dark matter consists of and whether antimatter type states of dark matter are possible is unknown. That would depend on whether there is any inherent asymmetry as in normal matter, e,g., protons have positive charge, electrons have negative charge. Some quanta are their own antiparticles, most notably photons. Yet we do not see a whole lot of photon annihilation going on. We simply do not know what dark matter may be like. But I see no reason to call it 'spiritual'.

If dark energy is in fact due to a non-zero Cosmological Constant in General Relativity, then the matter - antimatter dichotomy is simply irrelevant. It may not be spiritual but it is kind of spooky. :)
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Anti-matter... It no longer exists because it's the opposite of the matter that makes up us and everything we see. It's something that cannot exist in this universe, so if it were possible that there was another universe, where anti-matter dominated, the laws of physics would be completely foreign to all we know...

...I wonder what that universe would look like. Would it be like heaven?

Then we have dark matter... it's not quite regular matter, but not quite anti-matter either. It can clump together to form objects, and makes up a whopping 27% of the universe. Like a ghost, it exists invisibly, and cannot be seen or touched. So is dark matter just regular matter mixed with spirit matter? Is dark matter and dark energy half spiritual and half regular matter?
On the first question, no.

Antimatter is just as material as regular matter, simply with reversed values for certain properties. It happens to be relatively rare, but when we encounter it, it behaves according to just the same rules of physics as regular matter.
So it most certainly does exist in this universe. People do experiments with it and some antiparticles (positrons) are produced naturally by certain forms of radioactive decay.

On the second, dark matter is a placeholder term for something that produces gravitation like regular matter but does not emit or absorb radiation and thus can't be detected by telescopes. We know "something" is there from the gravity effect on rotation of galaxies, but without being able to get anything from our telescopes we are for the moment stumped as to its nature. Invoking an idea like "spirit matter" does not seem to get us any further forward in understanding what it could be. Best leave that one to the particle physicists, I think.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Anti-matter... It no longer exists because it's the opposite of the matter that makes up us and everything we see. It's something that cannot exist in this universe, so if it were possible that there was another universe, where anti-matter dominated, the laws of physics would be completely foreign to all we know...

...I wonder what that universe would look like. Would it be like heaven?

Then we have dark matter... it's not quite regular matter, but not quite anti-matter either. It can clump together to form objects, and makes up a whopping 27% of the universe. Like a ghost, it exists invisibly, and cannot be seen or touched. So is dark matter just regular matter mixed with spirit matter? Is dark matter and dark energy half spiritual and half regular matter?

If you want to define the 'spiritual realm' as anything that science has yet to figure out then this 'spiritual realm' appears to be shrinking decade after decade.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Particle accelerators generate antimatter all the time. Certain ordinary physical processes do it as well, such as fluorine-18 and oxygen-15 isotope decay. These release positrons, which allows them to be used as tracers in Positron Emission Tomography used in studying the internal processes such as blood flow of medical patients. Nothing spiritual going on here.

Replace all of the matter in the universe with antimatter and the laws of physics are almost completely identical. Only examination of neutrino spin states could tell the difference. Living in an antimatter universe would be the same as living in this universe. Again nothing spiritual going on.

What dark matter consists of and whether antimatter type states of dark matter are possible is unknown. That would depend on whether there is any inherent asymmetry as in normal matter, e,g., protons have positive charge, electrons have negative charge. Some quanta are their own antiparticles, most notably photons. Yet we do not see a whole lot of photon annihilation going on. We simply do not know what dark matter may be like. But I see no reason to call it 'spiritual'.

If dark energy is in fact due to a non-zero Cosmological Constant in General Relativity, then the matter - antimatter dichotomy is simply irrelevant. It may not be spiritual but it is kind of spooky. :)

But we can only create tiny particles of antimatter... We don't really know how it operates in abundance, say for example, within the size of a universe.
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
There has been some interesting investigations going on in some sectors
with several models proposed...here is a look in at the debate currently:
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Miken

Active Member
But we can only create tiny particles of antimatter... We don't really know how it operates in abundance, say for example, within the size of a universe.

Why should that be any different from how individual particles work? There are only a limited number of values associated with quanta. In particle collision experiments, the sum of all quantum values and energy are unchanged as per conservation laws, although the distribution is changed. Why should antimatter somehow acquire properties that are not present in the input? That sounds like a conservation law violation.
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
Tokamak fusion reactor which magnetically contains the reaction.
Dense Plasma Focus Fusion is an other key word search parameter to explore this exciting development in physics

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George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Then we have dark matter... it's not quite regular matter, but not quite anti-matter either. It can clump together to form objects, and makes up a whopping 27% of the universe. Like a ghost, it exists invisibly, and cannot be seen or touched. So is dark matter just regular matter mixed with spirit matter? Is dark matter and dark energy half spiritual and half regular matter?
I am thinking Dark Matter is the key providing science's link from the physical to the spiritual.

Following Vedic, Theosophical and other occult traditions I suspect that things like the astral (afterlife heavenly) planes are composed of matter at a vibratory level and dimensional aspects (beyond our familiar three) that are outside the direct detection of physical senses and instruments.
 

Miken

Active Member
Not really. String theory seems to propose a "projection".
GSO Projection is a proposed approach put forward by some workers in superstring theory. There are critics who view it as an artificial construct without supporting physical rationale. GSO Projection is a very abstruse and complex model involving highly advanced forms of group theory. Where does the spiritual part come in?
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Why should that be any different from how individual particles work? There are only a limited number of values associated with quanta. In particle collision experiments, the sum of all quantum values and energy are unchanged as per conservation laws, although the distribution is changed. Why should antimatter somehow acquire properties that are not present in the input? That sounds like a conservation law violation.

"Particle" experiments..? As in one or two microscopic particles?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
How would such a thing be knowable?
Many claim that ordinary matter interacts with the supernatural world.
I think so-called paranormal and psychic phenomena is evidence that something unknown exists and can on occasion interact with our normal material world.
 
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