Iran Threatens to Destroy Israel in 30 Minutes: Does this ...

[Audie]

Ksa has opposed nuclear weapons for over 60 years

It is not super wonderful to do the same thing that
all but a handfull of other countries do.

I will be impressed when they catch up with the 1800s
socially.

 

[Wasp]

You don't know anything about Yemen. When you have followed their history for 6o years get back to me.

You know that isn't much of an argument. There simply is no excuse for what they do. You must see it too.

But I suppose it would be frightening to criticise Saudi Arabia seeing they may kill one for it.. In a nasty way too!

 

[sooda]

You know that isn't much of an argument. There simply is no excuse for what they do. You must see it too.

But I suppose it would be frightening to criticise Saudi Arabia seeing they may kill one for it.. In a nasty way too!

KSA has generously provided for Yemen for decades. They don't want a failed state on their borders.

7 years ago 500 factories in Yemen shut down... and their small oil production has succumbed to sabotage over the past 7-8 years.

KSA has built hospitals and clinics, schools and universities. They have provided them with food, medicine and gasoline in spite of terror attacks from Al Qaeda and the Al Houthis. Salman built and staffed a college dedicated to the hospitality industry over 20 years ago. KSA moved a dozen Saudi villages back from the border 20 kilometers 18 years ago. They are currently sheltering over a million Yemeni refugees.

Yemen is desperately poor and needs vaccinations, clean water, jobs and education. Even their newspapers shut own 5 years ago. Have you been to Abha or Asir?

Yemen has always been pretty lawless and dangerous outside the major cities. Back in the late 1940s they slaughtered the crew of a downed aircraft.

20 years ago when there was hope for tourism they kidnapped foreigners for ransom with the occasional murder when things went wrong.

Do you know how extraordinary their architecture is? Do you know about the flower men? They live on both sides of the border and have strong familial connections.

What has Iran done to help make things better?

 

[Revoltingest]

KSA has generously provided for Yemen for decades. They don't want a failed state on their borders.

7 years ago 500 factories in Yemen shut down... and their small oil production has succumbed to sabotage over the past 7-8 years.

KSA has built hospitals and clinics, schools and universities. They have provided them with food, medicine and gasoline in spite of terror attacks from Al Qaeda and the Al Houthis. Salman built and staffed a college dedicated to the hospitality industry over 20 years ago. KSA moved a dozen Saudi villages back from the border 20 kilometers 18 years ago. They are currently sheltering over a million Yemeni refugees.

Yemen is desperately poor and needs vaccinations, clean water, jobs and education. Even their newspapers shut own 5 years ago. Have you been to Abha or Asir?

Yemen has always been pretty lawless and dangerous outside the major cities. Back in the late 1940s they slaughtered the crew of a downed aircraft.

20 years ago when there was hope for tourism they kidnapped foreigners for ransom with the occasional murder when things went wrong.

Do you know how extraordinary their architecture is? Do you know about the flower men? They live on both sides of the border and have strong familial connections.

What has Iran done to help make things better?

I begin to suspect that you like KSA, but not Iran.

 

[Wasp]

KSA has generously provided for Yemen for decades. They don't want a failed state on their borders.

7 years ago 500 factories in Yemen shut down... and their small oil production has succumbed to sabotage over the past 7-8 years.

KSA has built hospitals and clinics, schools and universities. They have provided them with food, medicine and gasoline in spite of terror attacks from Al Qaeda and the Al Houthis. Salman built and staffed a college dedicated to the hospitality industry over 20 years ago. KSA moved a dozen Saudi villages back from the border 20 kilometers 18 years ago. They are currently sheltering over a million Yemeni refugees.

Yemen is desperately poor and needs vaccinations, clean water, jobs and education. Even their newspapers shut own 5 years ago. Have you been to Abha or Asir?

Yemen has always been pretty lawless and dangerous outside the major cities. Back in the late 1940s they slaughtered the crew of a downed aircraft.

20 years ago when there was hope for tourism they kidnapped foreigners for ransom with the occasional murder when things went wrong.

Do you know how extraordinary their architecture is? Do you know about the flower men? They live on both sides of the border and have strong familial connections.

What has Iran done to help make things better?

About the bombs that hit mostly civilians... And those fancy hospitals as well.

 

[sooda]

About the bombs that hit mostly civilians... And those fancy hospitals as well.

That's what war looks like.. They don't line up on an empty battlefield. Take it up with the Houthis or AQ or ISIS or Boko Haram or Iran. The Saudis avoided this war for nearly a decade.

The terrorist factions that have invaded Yemen have to care more about Yemen than the Saudis … The Saudis are tapped out trying to do the right thing ..

 

[Wasp]

That's what war looks like.. They don't line up on an empty battlefield. Take it up with the Houthis or AQ or ISIS or Boko Haram or Iran. The Saudis avoided this war for nearly a decade.

The terrorist factions that have invaded Yemen have to care more about Yemen than the Saudis … The Saudis are tapped out trying to do the right thing ..

Lovely garbage.

Saudi Arabia isn't at war with Yemen though. And that's not just "what war looks like". It's an Islamic country. Remember the rules of war in Islam?

 

[sooda]

Lovely garbage.

Saudi Arabia isn't at war with Yemen though. And that's not just "what war looks like". It's an Islamic country. Remember the rules of war in Islam?

Why do you think Arabia moved all those villages back 20 kilometers from the border nearly 20 years ago?

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The al Houthi movement in Yemen traces its roots back to a political and paramilitary group called the Believing Youth established in the mid-1990s by Hussein Badr al Din al Houthi. The Believing Youth was aligned with the pro-government al Huqq party and sought to revive Zaydism, a Shiite sect whose tenets include the belief that only descendants of the Prophet Mohammad can be legitimate Muslim rulers.

After Yemen President Ali Abdullah Saleh aligned himself with the U.S. in 2001, Hussein al Houthi increasingly spoke out against the state, and the group held mass anti-government and anti-American demonstrations. The government issued a reward for the capture of Hussein and security forces killed him in September 2004 during an attempt to arrest him. His death ignited an uprising by his followers, who became known as the al Houthis.

The al Houthi movement draws its supporters from the Zaydi Shiite population in northern Yemen and is primarily active in Sa'ada and Amran provinces. The al Houthis' grievances include economic and social marginalization, corruption in the government, close alignment of the state with the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, and excessive Wahhabi influence on state policy and schools.

The al Houthi rebels do not see President Saleh as a legitimate ruler, despite the fact that he is also a Zaydi, because he is not of the Haashimite bloodline (descended from the Prophet).

Haashimite Imams ruled Yemen for centuries before the 1962 coup that deposed the imamate. Al Houthi leaders, however, are quick to deny accusations that the goal of the al Houthi movement is to re-establish a Shiite imamate in the north of Yemen – an accusation the government often repeats. The al Houthi movement claims to seek autonomy from the Yemeni state for the Zaydi Shiite population in order to redress its other stated grievances.

There have been multiple attempts at ceasefires and peace deals since the beginning of the conflict, but agreements have repeatedly collapsed, leading to the resumption of fighting.

Most recently, the government launched a full-scale military offensive, OPERATION SCORCHED EARTH, in August 2009 in response to the al Houthi takeover of schools, hospitals, mosques, military installations, and roads in Saíada and Amran provinces.

Clashes have been continuing since then and have spilled over into neighboring Saudi Arabia. Riyadh announced in the last week of January 2010 that it had defeated the al Houthi rebels in its territory and was withdrawing its forces.


Leadership of the al Houthi Movement

Continued.

Profile: al Houthi Movement

 

[sooda]

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[Wasp]

Why do you think Arabia moved all those villages back 20 kilometers from the border nearly 20 years ago?

Excerpt:

The al Houthi movement in Yemen traces its roots back to a political and paramilitary group called the Believing Youth established in the mid-1990s by Hussein Badr al Din al Houthi. The Believing Youth was aligned with the pro-government al Huqq party and sought to revive Zaydism, a Shiite sect whose tenets include the belief that only descendants of the Prophet Mohammad can be legitimate Muslim rulers.

After Yemen President Ali Abdullah Saleh aligned himself with the U.S. in 2001, Hussein al Houthi increasingly spoke out against the state, and the group held mass anti-government and anti-American demonstrations. The government issued a reward for the capture of Hussein and security forces killed him in September 2004 during an attempt to arrest him. His death ignited an uprising by his followers, who became known as the al Houthis.

The al Houthi movement draws its supporters from the Zaydi Shiite population in northern Yemen and is primarily active in Sa'ada and Amran provinces. The al Houthis' grievances include economic and social marginalization, corruption in the government, close alignment of the state with the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, and excessive Wahhabi influence on state policy and schools.

The al Houthi rebels do not see President Saleh as a legitimate ruler, despite the fact that he is also a Zaydi, because he is not of the Haashimite bloodline (descended from the Prophet).

Haashimite Imams ruled Yemen for centuries before the 1962 coup that deposed the imamate. Al Houthi leaders, however, are quick to deny accusations that the goal of the al Houthi movement is to re-establish a Shiite imamate in the north of Yemen – an accusation the government often repeats. The al Houthi movement claims to seek autonomy from the Yemeni state for the Zaydi Shiite population in order to redress its other stated grievances.

There have been multiple attempts at ceasefires and peace deals since the beginning of the conflict, but agreements have repeatedly collapsed, leading to the resumption of fighting.

Most recently, the government launched a full-scale military offensive, OPERATION SCORCHED EARTH, in August 2009 in response to the al Houthi takeover of schools, hospitals, mosques, military installations, and roads in Saíada and Amran provinces.

Clashes have been continuing since then and have spilled over into neighboring Saudi Arabia. Riyadh announced in the last week of January 2010 that it had defeated the al Houthi rebels in its territory and was withdrawing its forces.


Leadership of the al Houthi Movement

Continued.

Profile: al Houthi Movement

If you refer to Saudi Arabia its Saudi Arabia properly named.

However, you're still not addressing the point.

 

[sooda]

If you refer to Saudi Arabia its Saudi Arabia properly named.

However, you're still not addressing the point.

It's The kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

 

[Shad]

Iran Threatens to Destroy Israel in 30 Minutes: Does this Confirm Prophecy of a Speedy Gog and Magog?
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/132663/iran-threatens-destroy-israel-30-minutes...
1 day ago · Iran is over 1,100 miles from Israel. Intercontinental ballistic missiles travel at approximately 3.5 miles per second. Based on these figures, a nuclear-capable ICBM from Iran would arrive in Israel 5-7 minutes after being fired. In this case, Zolnour’s threat of destroying Israel

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On that day, when Gog sets foot on the soil of Yisrael—declares Hashem—My raging anger shall flare up. Ezekiel 38:18 (The Israel Bible™) …

A senior Iranian official threatened Israel but revised his threat from seven minutes until total obliteration, to half an hour. This raised the question of precisely how long the War of Gog and Magog will last.

It was reported in Mehr news on Monday that Mojtaba Zolnour, the chairman of the Iranian parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Commission, threatened Israel with retaliation that would entirely destroy the country.

“If the U.S. attacks us, only half an hour will remain of Israel’s lifespan,” Zolnour said on Monday, according to Mehr.

This is not the first time Zolnour has threatened Israel and if anything, he gives Israel slightly more leeway than he did in his previous threats. In 2017, Zolnour threatened the U.S. and then expanded his threat to include Israel.

The US army’s fifth fleet is “all within the range of Iran’s missile systems and they will be razed to the ground if the enemy makes a mistake,” Zonour said. Doubling down on Karimpour’s threat, he added, “And only 7 minutes are needed for the Iranian missile to hit Tel Aviv.”

Iran is over 1,100 miles from Israel. Intercontinental ballistic missiles travel at approximately 3.5 miles per second. Based on these figures, a nuclear-capable ICBM from Iran would arrive in Israel 5-7 minutes after being fired. In this case, Zolnour’s threat of destroying Israel in half an hour seems realistic. Of course, this is only true if Israel does not utilize its robust anti-missile capabilities.

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Iran Threatens to Destroy Israel in 30 Minutes: Does this Confirm Prophecy of a Speedy Gog and Magog?

Saber rattling from an inept military is hilarious. The 5th fleet could glass Iran while Iran couldn't do anything to stop it.

The IDF has one of the best AM defense systems on the planet.

 

[sooda]

Saber rattling from an inept military is hilarious. The 5th fleet could glass Iran while Iran couldn't do anything to stop it.

The IDF has one of the best AM defense systems on the planet.

I know that.. If it comes to war, Iran won't attack Israel. They will bomb Jubail and Ras Tanura.

Yemen needs clean water, food, healthcare and education just for starters. Its a humanitarian disaster. Further, shipping thru the Strait of Hormuz and the Bab al Mandab are at risk.

Its unlikely Iran will fight any war.. They prefer to fund HAMAS, Hezbollah and the al Houthis and swarm foreign flagged ships just enough to kill a few people and be a nuisance.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's The kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

I'd checked on that.
And being lazy, I too now refer to it as "KSA".

 

[Shad]

Yemen needs clean water, food, healthcare and education just for starters. Its a humanitarian disaster. Further, shipping thru the Strait of Hormuz and the Bab al Mandab are at risk.

Problem is more boots on the ground are needed to change what happening in Yemen. Sure keeping logistic lines open helps.

Its unlikely Iran will fight any war..

Only if the US shows an interest as a combatant party.

They prefer to fund HAMAS, Hezbollah and the al Houthis and swarm foreign flagged ships just enough to kill a few people and be a nuisance.

4th generation warfare is hard to counter when the population is unwilling to target those involved. Hence why people flip out at the IDF yet it is the only major example of success against this type of warfare. Even the IDF is limited.

 

[sooda]

It is not super wonderful to do the same thing that
all but a handfull of other countries do.

I will be impressed when they catch up with the 1800s
socially.

When were you last in Saudi Arabia?

 

[Audie]

When were you last in Saudi Arabia?

When did you last talk with Donald Trump?

More to the point- I do take back what I said
about catching up with the 18th centuiry. Make that
17th.

List of capital offenses in KSA

• Apostasy[12]
• Treason
• Homosexuality[13]
• Espionage[14]
• Murder[10]
• Rape[10]
• Terrorism[15]
• Drug smuggling
• Armed robbery[10]
• Blasphemy[10]
• Burglary if aggravated circumstances, including recidivism[14]
• Adultery (Unmarried adulterers can be sentenced to 100 lashes, married ones can be sentenced to stoning.)[16]
• Sorcery or witchcraft[8][17][18][19]
• Waging war on God[20][21]

 

[Shad]

That's what war looks like.. They don't line up on an empty battlefield. Take it up with the Houthis or AQ or ISIS or Boko Haram or Iran. The Saudis avoided this war for nearly a decade.

People have a romanticized view of warfare with clear good guys and clear bad guys. Noble warfare died over a century ago (lines of battle in a pitched battle). People haven't figured this out yet. Terrorists hide with civilians yet people want to follow rules of warfare that never worked in reality.

This is why the current state of war will never end as no one has the willpower to demonstrated how wrong an enemy is to take up arms via devastation warfare.

 

[sooda]

Problem is more boots on the ground are needed to change what happening in Yemen. Sure keeping logistic lines open helps.



Only if the US shows an interest as a combatant party.



4th generation warfare is hard to counter when the population is unwilling to target those involved. Hence why people flip out at the IDF yet it is the only major example of success against this type of warfare. Even the IDF is limited.

Sorry to dump on you, Shad.

Yemen is swimming in guns and they keep interdicting weapons shipments from Iran.

 

[sooda]

When did you last talk with Donald Trump?

You don't have to talk to Trump.. He's either tweeting or on TV every bloody day.