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IOC says athlete protests remain banned at Tokyo Olympics

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by Stevicus, Apr 22, 2021.

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  1. Stevicus

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    IOC says athlete protests remain banned at Tokyo Olympics - UPI.com

    70% of the athletes said that it was not appropriate to protest during the games.

    This puts the IOC at odds with the US Olympic Committee.

     
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  2. A Vestigial Mote

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    I think political statements and so forth are completely beside the point at something like an Olympic event. It is there for a very specific purpose, and anyone trying to make it about something else - something personal to themselves besides whether or not they can kick everyone else's butt in a particular event - doesn't seem to have a place, honestly.

    Sort of like the idea of separating church and state. If one group has their say on a topic, then you have to let anyone and everyone have their say or make displays. That could very well just end up being a lot of posturing and distraction - when the event has a very specific premise.

    Not to mention that this particular event is designed to be a way for countries to simultaneously come together and also compete in a peaceful way. Protests, in particular, go against the grain of that. It is a statement like "we may be together, but I still have my gripes" - which defeats the spirit of the games, in my opinion. Then you can't just "come together" in any avenue - must it be just another demonstration of how displeased everyone is with one another?
     
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  3. Kooky

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    This is not surprising, as neither the Japanese government nor the corrupt swamp that is the IOC have ever been notable fans of people exercising their civic rights to publically express their grievances in protest.
     
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  4. Lyndon

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    Yes, freedom of speech is of no importance whatsoever!
     
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    Isn`t the Olympic games a sporting event and not a political event :confused:
    Yes to freedom of speech, but why mix sport and politics :confused:
     
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  6. Revoltingest

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    Aren't the origins of the Olympics in countries
    setting aside differences to come together for
    sport, friendship, & positivity?
    Protests are the opposite.
     
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    True, sport come first
     
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    Good for the competitors. There's a time for your job and a time for expression. They thought of their fans first. Protest afterwards.

    That's a big score for the athletes.
     
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    Countries can protest by boycotting them.
    Those attending should agree to not protest.
    Athletes & countries who can't honor the
    agreement should stay away.
     
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    Not sure that is what I said... but whatever you want to think Lyndon. That's the way I would have to assume you operate anyway, based on much of what I have read from you. So have at it.
     
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    The problem with allowing protests is that different people think they are morally justified to protest different issues. The idea we should allow protests is really the idea that we should allow 'good' protests as defined by us.

    Maybe some Chinese athletes would like to have anti-Uygher protests. Or some pro-Putin athletes may want to protest against LGBT+ rights, or against immigration. Maybe some MAGA Americans want to have a Q-Anon or 'stop the steal' protest, or 'Justice for Derek Chauvin'.
     
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  12. Kooky

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    Have you ever watched footage from, or read about the 1936 Olympic games in Berlin, the 1956 games in Melbourne, the 1980 games in Moscow, or the 2008 games in Beijing?

    The Olympic games have never not mixed sport and politics.

    (edit: added reference to Moscow and Melbourne games)
     
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    I don't understand why you are framing this question as a hypothetical one. We know for a fact that totalitarian regimes use the Olympic games as a platform to make themselves and their reprehensible ideologies look inviting, because that is what happened when e.g. Hitler's Germany hosted the games in 1936.
    And the 2008 Beijing games were also, arguably, a massive propaganda event for the PRC, with the opening ceremony directed by none other than China's Riefenstahl, Zhang Yimou.
     
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    Any athletes famous enough should know the event is time to focus on the gold. That means if they want to distract themselves anyways , I'd say go ahead, knock yourself out.
     
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    Why?
     
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    And yet the Olympics continue on despite those abuses. It is a given that there will be some propaganda for the host country (except when America hosted the Olympics of course:rolleyes:). Limiting athletic protests is an attempt to minimize politics.

    By the way, athletes can still protest, there will merely be repercussions. So if you are planning anything at the Olympics wait until you have completed your event. Otherwise you might not.
     
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    Because it's useful to honor one's word when given.
    Do you?
     
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    Do I what?
     
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    Do you honor your word?
     
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