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Featured Introversion or the Journey Inward

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. Fool

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    if the kingdom of heaven is within, can it be found without turning inward first?
     
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    It's not introversion, but introspection. Introversion is being socially withdrawn, keeping to oneself, and such. Introspection is looking within.

    I'll post my thoughts to your question a little later, as the answer is little involved. In short, yes, seeking externally can lead to one recognizing the inner landscapes. For instance, praying to God outside yourself, activates interior energies. But ultimately it has to be the inward path to find Truth within. Then that which is within and without are harmonized and become extensions of each other.
     
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    No, good householder, it can not be found without leaving the world behind at first place. One needs to leave "home", ones senses, to reach the higher realms of the Brahmas, i.e. at least the first Jhana.

    To reach such purification of one virtue is needed a basic training, which assists one in learning not to take on sensual impulses in harmful and not given way. As for being able to turn rightly inwardly, the practice of eight Silas is necessary.

    A perfect day, this full moon Uposatha, to start such a journey and take refuge and Silas for it. Much success with blessed own choices.
     
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    Unless you practice a tantric path.
     
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    Where did you get that?
     
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    i stole it from the king. giggles

    Luke 17:21
     
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    Who says such, with founded authority, householder Windwalker? Even the OP starter, possible not so informed, realiced the nature of the Kings-heaven. One may reach some heavens in the sensual realms, if not falling into hell inbetween with such practice.
     
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    I see. Well, we have to look at it within its context. Now don't we? In what context was Christ saying this and who was his audience?
     
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    even in hell there I AM.


    light impressed with love. the darkness is as light to love.

    unconditional love is not a respecter of forms


    The Buddha said, “Those who rejoice in seeing others observe the Way will obtain great blessing.” A Sramana asked the Buddha, “Would this blessing be destroyed?” The Buddha replied, “It is like a lighted torch whose flame can be distributed to ever so many other torches which people may bring along; and therewith they will cook food and dispel darkness, while the original torch itself remains burning ever the same. It is even so with the bliss of the Way.”


    such is the way of bliss, of love
     
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    If... then... yes
    If not? Maybe not.
     
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    I AM christ and you are my audience. I AM buddha, krishna. oneness doesn't distinguish between this friend and that foe. i got my crown


    :rolleyes:





    listen to what the spirit says.


    Revelation 14:2
    And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
     
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    "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy."
     
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    we're talking about an involution of consciousness?
     
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    This is correct. His audience was the poor and the outcast, he was telling them that the Kingdom of God was and is among them has a congregation of love and support doing the work of Holy Spirit that would later come to dwell in them at Pentecost.
     
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    strong's H8432
     
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