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Interview: A biochemist explains his faith.

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
In 1978, Dr. Hans Kristian Kotlar’s first job in scientific research was at the Norwegian Radium Hospital, where he studied cancer and the human immune system. At that time, he also became interested in the origin of life. Awake! asked him about his research and his religious faith.

What stirred your interest in the origin and meaning of life?

My father was Catholic and my mother was Protestant. That said, they did not view religion as important. As for me, during my teens, I wondered about the meaning of life, and I read books about Buddhism, Hinduism, and Islam. I even asked God to reveal the truth to me.

By the 1970’s, the field of molecular biology had made some amazing advances, and I wondered if it might reveal how life began. The mechanisms within living cells intrigued me, so I chose to study biotechnology. I might add that most of my professors said that life evolved by natural processes, and I believed them.

Why did you take an interest in the Bible?

Two of Jehovah’s Witnesses visited our home. Although they were pleasant, I reacted rudely and told them I was not interested. My wife overheard me. “That was not kind, Hans Kristian,” she said. “You have always been interested in the meaning of life.” She was right, and I felt ashamed. So I ran after the Witnesses. During our conversation, I told them that I wanted to know if the Bible is in harmony with science.

How did they respond to that?

They showed me what the Bible says about the Source of the energy manifest in the universe. The scripture they read states: “Lift up your eyes to heaven and see. Who has created these things? . . . Because of his vast dynamic energy and his awe-inspiring power, not one of them is missing.” * This statement intrigued me. It also seemed reasonable that only an intelligent Source of energy could account for the order in the universe.

Did your view of evolution change?

I gradually realized that the various theories of evolution lacked rigorous scientific proof. In fact, they are basically stories invented to explain how the remarkable designs found within living things, such as the immune system, could originate in a mindless manner. The more I studied the immune system, the more I realized just how complex and effective it is. Thus, my research led me to conclude that life is a product of an intelligent Creator.


Can you give us some evidence of design?

The immune system is actually an astonishing array of structures and mechanisms designed to defend us from a wide variety of agents, including bacteria and viruses. The mechanisms, in turn, can be grouped into two complementary systems. The first mobilizes an attack on invading microbes within hours. The second takes several days to respond but targets the invaders like a well-aimed arrow. This second system also has a good memory, so that if a specific invader returns years later, this enemy will be met with a rapid response. The whole system works so well that often you do not even realize that you have been infected and effectively defended. Also amazing is the way the immune system distinguishes between foreign substances and the hundreds of cell types that make up our body.

Tell us, what happens when a microbe enters our body?

Microbes sneak in through our breath, our food, our urogenital tract, or breaks in our skin. When the immune system detects intruders, it sets in motion a cascade of reactions involving dozens of precisely designed proteins. Each component in this cascade activates the next to amplify the counterattack. The process is mind-boggling!

Could we say, then, that your knowledge of science has strengthened your faith in God?

Absolutely! The power and sophistication of our immune system points to a wise and loving Creator. I might add that science has also strengthened my faith in the Bible. For example, Proverbs 17:22 tells us that “a joyful heart is good medicine.” Researchers have discovered that our state of mind can influence our immune system. Stress, for instance, can weaken our immune response.

Many of your peers don’t believe in God. Why is that?

The reasons vary. Some, as was true of me, simply accept what they were taught. Perhaps they assume that evolution is backed up by good science. Others give little thought to how life began. That’s a pity. I think they should ask more questions.

Why did you become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

I was attracted by their hospitality and their faith in the Creator’s promise of a better future. And that faith rests on research and sound reasoning, not myths or speculation.
 
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FunctionalAtheist

Hammer of Reason
In 1978, Dr. Hans Kristian Kotlar’s first job in scientific research was at the Norwegian Radium Hospital, where he studied cancer and the human immune system. At that time, he also became interested in the origin of life. Awake! asked him about his research and his religious faith.

So when the mormons spoke with him, he a priori accepted an intelligent designer. As the years went by he found more and more facts that did not prove him wrong.

Thanks!
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Its just another example of faith over scientific reality.



The Dr doesnt want myths or speculation :biglaugh:
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
I have faith. I have faith in many things.

I have faith that science will, eventually, help us live longer and healthier both in mind and body. I have faith in my species, that we'll eventually come together in social cooperation to deal with the problems that face us in our age and the next.

You don't need a God[any] to have faith. But if he wants to have faith in God[Christian] then that's okay, too. I don't see how its relevant to a science vs religion forum, however.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
It's a nice story. I may not share this gentleman's conclusions or his dismissal of evolution, but as a student and researcher in hard science myself, I do share the sentiment of awe and wonder at the remarkable nature of this reality.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't buy his reasons for believing, but it shows to go ya that the faithful can be smart & educated.
 

Parsimony

Well-Known Member
Seems like the argument from incredulity. He doesn't understand how something as complex as the human immune system could have evolved and therefore concludes that it could not have.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I gradually realized that the various theories of evolution lacked rigorous scientific proof. In fact, they are basically stories invented to explain how the remarkable designs found within living things, such as the immune system, could originate in a mindless manner.

I think he missed the point that evolution is mindless. It has no intentions or goals. Evolution is occurring right now in polar bears and brown (grizzly) bears hybridizing. Polar bears and brown bears were once the same animal. They diverged because different populations filled different ecological niches. Now that the Arctic region is warming, brown bears are venturing further north, mating with polar bears. I daresay given time we'll see yet a third distinct species of bear, not a rejoining of polar and brown bears... something about "The Origin of Species" by that Darwin fella.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
So when the mormons spoke with him, he a priori accepted an intelligent designer. As the years went by he found more and more facts that did not prove him wrong.

Thanks!

Jehovahs Witnesses are not mormons. They are a completely different branch of christianity.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
I am confused.
What is this debate about?

Its not really a debate (the forum doesnt have 'debate' in the title so i assumed it wasnt a debating forum) Its really about science and religion being compatible.

Here is a scientist who is not convinced that science overides religion. Nor does he believe the complex world we live in could have originated by blind chance. And his research has led him to believe that something more is at work in the natural world.
 
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
So the world harbors one JW biologist. Astounding! We should all become creationists now.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
In 1978, Dr. Hans Kristian Kotlar’s first job in scientific research was at the Norwegian Radium Hospital, where he studied cancer and the human immune system. At that time, he also became interested in the origin of life. Awake! asked him about his research and his religious faith.
This is truly pathetic. The idea that anyone might find it compelling is far more sad than silly ...
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
So the world harbors one JW biologist. Astounding! We should all become creationists now.

dont tempt me to post more of these interviews from other scientists... we have plenty more where this comes from :D
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
This is truly pathetic. The idea that anyone might find it compelling is far more sad than silly ...

well i dont know, i think there are many people who only hear one side of the story.... most published remarks come from the athiests and non believers, but its not very often we get to hear from scientists who actually do believe the bible and God are a reality.

So this is for them. I hope they enjoy having their faith reaffirmed in some way.

:)
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
dont tempt me to post more of these interviews from other scientists... we have plenty more where this comes from :D

You have no where near as many scientists who believe in intelligent design than you have scientists who believe in evolution. That's just a fact. The ratio is probably far greater than a hundred to one in favor of evolution. Face it: You scientist is an outlier.
 
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