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International citizenship

Discussion in 'The Material World' started by Conscious thoughts, Feb 23, 2021.

  1. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    Not sure i put this in the correct section, so please move it if needed.

    Whould it be possible to have a international citizenship and pass port for those who do not feel they belong to the country they was born in?

    What would be needed for this to work?
     
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  2. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    Lots to happen before we get to that stage, but it is inevitable.

    Regards Tony
     
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  3. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    What would you say must be done to make it happen?
     
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  4. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Well...your passport allows you to travel in the EU.:)
     
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  5. Conscious thoughts

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    Yes, but i do not feel a belonging to my birth country
     
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  6. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    The acceptance of our oneness, that we are one people on one planet and that we have one God.

    I see that might take world encompassing convulsions for us to work together.

    Regards Tony
     
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  7. ChristineM

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    Brexit caused millions of requests for a European passport. Nothing was done about it.
     
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  8. aketo

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    Do you mean this?:
    Global citizenship - Wikipedia
    There are many organisations that provide passports as a "global citizen".
    It is easier to try and get citizenship in a country of your choosing, leaving behind your birth country.
     
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  9. Conscious thoughts

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    Yes the link you provided is one of the ways i see as possible:)

    Personally i have no attachments to any country, so i was looking at an option to have a passport that have no spesific country as origin. Lets call it citizenship of the earth
     
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  10. Gargovic Malkav

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    Is it that you don't care about ethnicity?
    Or is that you explicitly feel Non-Norwegian or Non-European?
     
  11. Conscious thoughts

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    I feel human:) to me it is not important where on earth we are born, it's more about being in it together:)
     
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  12. Gargovic Malkav

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    You may not care, but others may think otherwise.
    What about them?
     
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    I speak only for me on this topic:) i have no saying over others. And of course i respect what others think
     
  14. Gargovic Malkav

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    The reason why I ask is, does your Norwegian passport make you anything more or less than a citizen of the earth?
     
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    Mock Turtle Asinine, socialist-leaning, puerile filth
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    The sooner we do away with passports and such the better in my view (feeling more like a global citizen), but then they are so often just defence mechanisms to protect a country from those who might want to harm such, so how do we get around that?

    Albert Einstein described himself as a world citizen and supported the idea throughout his life, famously saying "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

    Yippee! :oops:
     
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    I think international citizenship is something one can practice without needing a piece of paper
     
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    Throwbacks! -- tribalists with a stone age neurology.

    From Aketo's linked article:
    Studies of the psychological roots of global citizenship have found that persons high in global citizenship are also high on the personality traits of openness to experience and agreeableness from the Big Five personality traits and high in empathy and caring. Oppositely, the authoritarian personality, the social dominance orientation, and psychopathy are all associated with less global human identification. Some of these traits are influenced by heredity as well as by early experiences, which, in turn, likely influence individuals' receptiveness to global human identification.[14]

    Research has found that those who are high in global human identification are less prejudiced toward many groups, care more about international human rights, worldwide inequality, global poverty and human suffering. They attend more actively to global concerns, value the lives of all human beings more equally, and give more in time and money to international humanitarian causes. They tend to be more politically liberal on both domestic and international issues.[14] They want their countries to do more to alleviate global suffering.
     
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  18. Gargovic Malkav

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    Don't you think new groups/divisions/cultures will arise if you would do away with the concept of nationalism?
    And won't it be a gateway to a new era of taboos, where it is forbidden to speak of these cultural differences, which in turn will lead to a new era of narrow-mindedness and oppression?
     
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  19. Vinayaka

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    Every country has different immigration laws. Many would be posted on line, and you can always visit any embassy in your country to find out. It's not to be taken lightly, as some countries have severe punishments for anyone overstaying their visas.
     
  20. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    There's something like this already.

    Stateless persons are supposed to have the right to travel documents issued by their host country:

    What happens to refugees and stateless persons who have no passport? - Uniting Aviation

    ... but in practice, most countries don't issue travel documents to stateless persons. Some do.

    Of course, becoming a stateless person isn't just a matter of disliking the country where you have citizenship.
     
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