Intelligent Design for Atheists?

[JChnsc19]

I’m a little behind, just watched “The Unbelievers” where Richard Dawkins talks about the 1st mover being the Big Bang and Intelligent Design as DNA. I think adding 2.0 to make =Intelligent Design 2.0 would help cut down on confusion (1st mover 2.0 etc). My question is what is your opinion of atheists taking those 2 concepts from religion and using them? I don’t know that I have an opinion, it’s kinda funny but anything to plant that seed towards critical thinking I guess...

 

[Desert Snake]

Total nonsense. At what point does an atheist just admit thry arent an atheist, they can have "morality", ideas, they can have "purpose" ideas, these arent from the material universe, get a grip, realize you are a christian, who worships an rabbi called 'Yoheshua', or, a demon worshipper, and slowly walk away from my altar, the altar to the Unspecified g- d.

In other words, join a church, because youre already in one.

 

[icehorse]

Total nonsense. At what point does an atheist just admit thry arent an atheist, they can have "morality", ideas, they can have "purpose" ideas, these arent from the material universe, get a grip, realize you are a christian, who worships an rabbi called 'yeshua', or, a demon worshipper, and slowly walk away from my altar, the altar to the Unspecified g- d.

In other words, join a church, because youre already in one.

I would say that my sense of morality and purpose is superior to anyone who bases their's on fear. For example, anyone who is driven by a fear of hell is doing it wrong.

 

[PureX]

I’m a little behind, just watched “The Unbelievers” where Richard Dawkins talks about the 1st mover being the Big Bang and Intelligent Design as DNA. I think adding 2.0 to make =Intelligent Design 2.0 would help cut down on confusion (1st mover 2.0 etc). My question is what is your opinion of atheists taking those 2 concepts from religion and using them? I don’t know that I have an opinion, it’s kinda funny but anything to plant that seed towards critical thinking I guess...

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you're referring to, or what it is that you're trying to say about it.

DNA, it seems to me, would be an excellent example of "intelligent design" both as the result of intelligent design and as the design mechanism of intelligence. As to the big bang, we have no idea what instigated that, but we do know that the event has followed an innate 'design', though we do not yet know what or how, exactly, or what that design mechanism is, or what might possibly have generated it.

 

[Salvador]

I’m a little behind, just watched “The Unbelievers” where Richard Dawkins talks about the 1st mover being the Big Bang and Intelligent Design as DNA. I think adding 2.0 to make =Intelligent Design 2.0 would help cut down on confusion (1st mover 2.0 etc). My question is what is your opinion of atheists taking those 2 concepts from religion and using them? I don’t know that I have an opinion, it’s kinda funny but anything to plant that seed towards critical thinking I guess...

There is indeed a mark of intelligence left in our genetic code as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us present day human Earthlings with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

Reference: The "Wow! signal" of the terrestrial genetic code. Vladimir l. shCherbak and Maxim A. Makukov. Icarus, May 2013,Redirectinghttps://www.scribd.com/document/35302916...netic-Code

This mark of intelligence left in our genetic coding is indicative of an intelligent designer, whom we Earthling humans may never truly understand.

 

[Desert Snake]

I would say that my sense of morality and purpose is superior to anyone who bases their's on fear. For example, anyone who is driven by a fear of hell is doing it wrong.

A fear of "hell", can be a healthy spiritual subset connected to recognizing evil, aside from other things. Nothing inherently wrong with a fear of hell, in my estimation, that is a personal choice.

☆ probably wouldn't want to base your beliefs, on that, though, agreed.

 

[Sapiens]

A fear of "hell", can be a healthy spiritual subset connected to recognizing evil, aside from other things. Nothing inherently wrong with a fear of hell, in my estimation, that is a personal choice.

☆ probably wouldn't want to base your beliefs, on that, though, agreed.

There's nothing wrong with a fear of fire breathing dragons perse, but either fear is, at its root, imaginary and thus foolish.

 

[Twilight Hue]

There is indeed a mark of intelligence left in our genetic code as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us present day human Earthlings with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

Reference: The "Wow! signal" of the terrestrial genetic code. Vladimir l. shCherbak and Maxim A. Makukov. Icarus, May 2013,Redirectinghttps://www.scribd.com/document/35302916...netic-Code

This mark of intelligence left in our genetic coding is indicative of an intelligent designer, whom we Earthling humans may never truly understand.

The possibility of alien gene manipulation can be considered as a remote plausibility, but 37 itself isn't exactly the only value in genetics. Typical marker tests range in value 12, 25, 37, 67 and 111 with 37 being just the standard.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

I would say that my sense of morality and purpose is superior to anyone who bases their's on fear. For example, anyone who is driven by a fear of hell is doing it wrong.

Couldn’t agree more.

 

[Jollybear]

There is indeed a mark of intelligence left in our genetic code as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us present day human Earthlings with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

Reference: The "Wow! signal" of the terrestrial genetic code. Vladimir l. shCherbak and Maxim A. Makukov. Icarus, May 2013,Redirectinghttps://www.scribd.com/document/35302916...netic-Code

This mark of intelligence left in our genetic coding is indicative of an intelligent designer, whom we Earthling humans may never truly understand.

What would you say to those who think the DNA is not a code, but is just called code in a metaphoric sense and its all chemical reactions?

I agree its a code, but what would you say to those folks?

 

[Maximilian]

A fear of "hell", can be a healthy spiritual subset connected to recognizing evil, aside from other things. Nothing inherently wrong with a fear of hell, in my estimation, that is a personal choice.

☆ probably wouldn't want to base your beliefs, on that, though, agreed.

The doctrine that God demoniacally tortures billions of immortal spirits for all eternity in a blazing sea of perpetual fire is a Satanic Antichrist mendacity that defames God.

As a God of justice and love, he would never create such a vicious and barbaric realm much less prescribe infinite punishment for a finite crime no matter how wicked.

 

[Maximilian]

I’m a little behind, just watched “The Unbelievers” where Richard Dawkins talks about the 1st mover being the Big Bang and Intelligent Design as DNA. I think adding 2.0 to make =Intelligent Design 2.0 would help cut down on confusion (1st mover 2.0 etc). My question is what is your opinion of atheists taking those 2 concepts from religion and using them? I don’t know that I have an opinion, it’s kinda funny but anything to plant that seed towards critical thinking I guess...

Reasoning from the tried and true principles of cause and causatum, we find within the world of nature all of the proof we need of a Creator. So much so that many recognize that if exceptional intellect is required to merely duplicate the breathtakingly daedal designs and systems present in nature (Biomimetics) then much more the original being replicated. In this way, Creation itself is probative of our Creator's necessary existence.

As Romans 1:20 explicates: “For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward because they are perceived by the things made.” So indisputable is this proof for a wise Creator that the Scriptures simply point out: “The senseless one has said in his heart: ‘There is no Jehovah.’”— Psalms 14:1.

But there is certainly far more that furnishes us with an excellent foundation for our faith. The perfect truth we require for such a foundation exists within the Holy Bible, his recorded Word for us all. Its internal harmony, the well-documented success of its detailed and accurate prophecies, along with the corroboration, by historians, archaeologists as well as other researchers and scholars, of the details it holds, certify it beyond any doubt to be of divine origin and thus unquestionably true.

Accordingly, everything that God wishes us to accept beyond what he has shown us via the natural world is found in his Word. Inside it, he has provided you with a strong framework for which to reason on and develop a solid confidence that realities beyond your reach or still to be brought to fruition, are certain and true.