Institute For Justice Thread

[Woberts]

The reason socialism & libertarianism are incompatible

They're not, though. Whether you believe so or not doesn't really matter when there is a branch of libertarianism, libertarian socialism. They've got it to work, maybe you should ask them how they did it? Anyway, socialism in this sense isn't really referring to full-blown socialism, think of it as a socialism-lite. From what I can gather, it's less about "oppressive social controls" and more about supreme economic freedom, i.e you worked on this assembly line, you're entitled to the fruits of your labor.

 

[Revoltingest]

They're not, though. Whether you believe so or not doesn't really matter when there is a branch of libertarianism, libertarian socialism. They've got it to work, maybe you should ask them how they did it? Anyway, socialism in this sense isn't really referring to full-blown socialism, think of it as a socialism-lite. From what I can gather, it's less about "oppressive social controls" and more about supreme economic freedom, i.e you worked on this assembly line, you're entitled to the fruits of your labor.

I agree that the only kind of socialism which works is the kind that isn't actually socialism.

 

[Woberts]

I agree that the only kind of socialism which works is the kind that isn't actually socialism.

So what you're saying is that everyone should use your definitions for libertarianism and socialism, which means that all the libertarian socialists cease to exist?

 

[Revoltingest]

So what you're saying is that everyone should use your definitions for libertarianism and socialism, which means that all the libertarian socialists cease to exist?

Libertarian socialism is an impossibility.
As for socialism, see dictionary.com or any other major dictionary.

 

[Woberts]

Libertarian socialism is an impossibility.
As for socialism, see dictionary.com or any other major dictionary.

How can it be an impossibility when it exists? However much you disagree, it's the truth. Perhaps your view of socialism is incorrect, since it meshes with libertarianism quite well.

 

[Revoltingest]

How can it be an impossibility when it exists? However much you disagree, it's the truth. Perhaps your view of socialism is incorrect, since it meshes with libertarianism quite well.

Where have socialism & libertarianism coexisted?

Btw, I'm assuming that we're talking about countries
rather than smaller societies (where socialism is voluntary)
within a capitalist system,

 

[Woberts]

Where have socialism & libertarianism coexisted?

Btw, I'm assuming that we're talking about countries
rather than smaller societies (where socialism is voluntary)
within a capitalist system,

That does not mean that they are incompatible, especially considering that the only libertarian state was a dictatorship. By your standards, they fit quite well.

 

[Revoltingest]

That does not mean that they are incompatible, especially considering that the only libertarian state was a dictatorship. By your standards, they fit quite well.

A libertarian dictatorship....that's possible, but unstable.
I think I know your reference, but discussing that should
be for another day.

 

[Revoltingest]

If cops destroy your home in the course of
doing what they do, there are 2 problems.
1) Your insurance won't pay for acts of God or government.
2) You can't sue government because they have "sovereign immunity".
SCOTUS & the courts always side with the cops & government.

Breaking news!
#2 just saw a big defeat by the Institute For Justice.

Philadelphia to pay $9.25 million settlement over response to protests after George Floyd murder

The plaintiffs in the lawsuit include residents of West Philadelphia and those who participated in a demonstration that briefly shut down the Vine Street Expressway.

6abc.com

It's not a binding precedent, but approaching this
case as a "takings" by government instead of
suing for damages just might become popular
around the country.

 

[Revoltingest]

This has ramifications in other areas.
If we have government provided health care,
there might be no right to sue for malpractice.
So if you go in to have a gangrenous leg removed,
& they take the wrong leg, you've no recourse
except to let them try again.