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Industrial Processing Machinery Rules!

PureX

Veteran Member
Unlike you, I believe that cooperation & association
are voluntary things, not enforced by the state.
Right. Meaning they are things we do only when it's good for me and mine. Not when it's good for everyone. Which is why you think anything else is "force", as opposed to protection.

It's sad that you so dispise cooperating for our collective (and therefor mutual) benefit that you'd have to be 'forced' to do it. But that is how selfish many of us have become under the yoke of capitalism. We really can't conceive of any other way, now.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
So easily made sad.
A collective requires cooperation.
It enforces that one do as one is told.
I prefer individual initiative.
Again you assume that force is required. It's not. One can work on behalf of our collective well being by choice. We all could. It's sad that you can't even imagine such a thing.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Again you assume that force is required. It's not. One can work on behalf of our collective well being by choice. We all could. It's sad that you can't even imagine such a thing.
One can indeed work for the hive by choice.
But when you require that all make the same
choice, then coercion is used.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Yet my house is in better shape than when it was built.
They pyramids....old they are, but in sorry shape.
We also have buildings here made from wood, some of them old and in good shape. But we don't call them "houses". They are huts and sheds.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
We also have buildings here made from wood, some of them old and in good shape. But we don't call them "houses". They are huts and sheds.
We also have "shacks", "hovels", & such.
Eurostan is going to discover that uninsulated masonry
buildings are spendy things to heat & cool. Their changing
climate & relationship with Russia will yield interesting times.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
We also have "shacks", "hovels", & such.
Eurostan is going to discover that uninsulated masonry
buildings are spendy things to heat & cool. Their changing
climate & relationship with Russia will yield interesting times.
Who says we have uninsulated buildings? Tradition in northern Germany is a clay brick outer wall and a lime sand brick inner wall with an insulating space in between. That's about the same insulation factor as a god wooden wall.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Who says we have uninsulated buildings? Tradition in northern Germany is a clay brick outer wall and a lime sand brick inner wall with an insulating space in between. That's about the same insulation factor as a god wooden wall.
Pretty spendy construction you got there.
And it results in less useable floor area for
a given building footprint.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Pretty spendy construction you got there.
Built to last - and doesn't require maintenance for the first 300 years or so. Withstands our local climate (-25 to +40° C, months of rain and the occasional hurricane) without any problem.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Built to last - and doesn't require maintenance for the first 300 years or so. Withstands our local climate (-25 to +40° C, months of rain and the occasional hurricane) without any problem.
No maintenance, eh. No roof repairs.
No furnace or AC replacements.
No plumbing maintenance.
Hogwash!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Obviously I meant the walls. We were talking about walls.
I do little to maintain my walls. Metal siding requires none.
Wood siding only needs painting every decade or so.
Although it can go much longer than that. And I get to
play with colors. (My compound has color coded buildings.)

Another advantage to less expensive construction is when
remodeling. It's easier to demolish & replace or add on.
An awful lot of that goes on here...everyone I know has
done this.
 
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